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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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This article is about FAFO for MAGA loyalists in the USA. Well, MAGA has FA'd with US-European relations. Now they get to FO where it takes us (i.e. over the waterfall, isolating the USA from everything good in the world.)

I doubt there's ever going to be an FO. What does Europe have of any value? What was the last thing of relevance they've done? Help with WWII?

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I hesitate to call Hetzner "cloud". Hetzner is an EC2+S3 competitor, not an AWS one. IMO the minimum for being a real cloud is you need hosted Postgres, hosted Kafka, hosted Kubernetes, and S3-compatible object storage. Without the first three Hetzner is just not in the same product category. Nobody sensible buys AWS for the comically overpriced EC2.

Another missed component is a real autoscaling load balancer. This often gets missed and taken for granted. Possibly due to if you haven't seen a good one (AWS) you might not realise what you're missing. Most aspiring "cloud" companies have fixed capacity single tennant load balancers which is not cloud in any definition.

Is it so hard to wire up some health/load checks and hook the provider API to spin up more VPS?

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

Is it actually anti-europe to ask europe to meet its NATO obligations?

Literally this.

"The US is gonna have their FO moment aaaany day now, they're gonna regret messing with us Europeans!"

"Bro you haven't even kept your end of the deal on your NATO military spending."

Turns out despite all the hubub, the 'superpower' fading the fastest was Europe after all.

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For decades trusting the US was no problem at all. The relationship was mutually beneficial. Cooperation and trust among nations is possible and Juche (completely self-reliance) is not a worthwhile goal at all. So, sure, cooperation is great and should always be a goal – it also secures peace (people who are economically intertwined are less likely to go to war with each other). The issue is the US burning up that ea…

Have you already forgot the Merkel Phone incident? https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-spy-agency-tapped-g... Trusting the US should be considered a problem since decades.

That's a small blip on the timeline. If you want some serious, long running stuff, you should read Crypto AG scandal.

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> want to annex a European territory Greenland is not in europe. It may be a danish colony but that doesn't make it "european territory" any more than french guiana is. EU territory? Sure. But europe is a penninsula on the western flank of eurasia. Edit: huh I had no idea how complicated the classification of eu territories is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_territories_of_members...

And Hawaii is not in America. Certainly neither is Guam etc. What kind of argument are you even trying to make?

> And Hawaii is not in America. Certainly neither is Guam etc.

Sure, no argument here.

> What kind of argument are you even trying to make?

Mostly that characterizing Greenland as European is just as insane as characterizing French Guiana that way. Or the falknlands, New Caledonia, Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Aruba, Curaçao, Anguilla, Bermuda, the Virgin Islands, etc etc. These are colonies—not part of europe, and should have been made whole decades ago with the resolution of WWII, and their continued presence as "rightfully" part of European nations destabilizes our globe.

Europe is welcome to extend its economic privileges to all nations of earth, and I for one will continue to argue for kicking us out of Hawaii and Guam while ensuring we don't further engage in predatory trade agreements.

Of course, I don't expect any of this predation to cease anytime soon.

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Production yes, but design is firmly in American hands - for now.

Well, the currently best OS widely deployed is Chinese only. HarmonyOS, a microkernel OS replacing Android on Chinese phones. About 10x faster development than in the US. And secure, unlike Linux. Fuchsia never made it widescale. They started a couple of years before the Chinese and then got stuck

"Best OS" as determined by who? Even just checking the Wikipedia page for HarmonyOS is sure to give a chuckle:

> supporting both tablet mode and full desktop counterpart in line with Huawei MateBook

I'm sorry, "MateBook"? Lol, I wonder where they possibly got the idea for that name from.

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Doesn't Europe actually have a lot of Chinese equipment in their telecom infrastructure? Is this an effort just to try not to make that mistake again?

No, not a lot as the EU has two very competitive providers in Ericsson and Nokia

They're both very expensive and the carriers primarily care about cost and features. And huawei will take a dozen devs, give them a one way ticket and put them in a hotel room near a customer to grind our whatever feature needed to seal the deal.

I remember years ago talking to some EU telecom VP who was on the engineering side that said "id buy from North Korea if the price was right".

We live in new times anyways - most of the carriers have outsourced a lot of the tech stuff to the vendors anyways.

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It is amazing how quick a country can turn into a corrupt dictatorship. Airbus has the ability to move their data to another location, but it is very problemetic that all people with a social account can't. Sure, you can delete your Facebook account but it will take years for you profile to be gone because we all know your data is sold to other parties. My only option is to keep in mind that everything I put online w…

> It is amazing how quick a country can turn into a corrupt dictatorship.

I know, watching the fall of the UK and European countries has been really depressing to see. It's unfortunate, but it seems the US will have to carry the torch alone going into the mid-to-late 21st century.

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I really hope regulators don't back down on this. Half a billion people shouldn't be reliant on whether a guy with clown makeup is having a dementia moment. Key infra (gov, utilities, news etc) has to be in house or at least in a EU country. Actually in house not big tech EU "sovereign" cloud wink wink nudge

> Key infra (gov, utilities, news etc) has to be in house or at least in a EU country. For some EU functionalities there is eu-lisa which develops and hosts services - mostly for police, immigration, biometrics and a slew of others. The problem is that they are very closed environments with a lot if bureaucracy involved and the development is done at snail pace.

> The problem is that they are very closed environments with a lot if bureaucracy involved and the development is done at snail pace.

Wow, so they're authentically European! Glad to see they're off to a great start.

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