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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#362
The AI first OS is a step in the right direction. I just don't think that a new device in this format is necessary yet. Regardless - I'm missing visual feedback in the current version. It's too open-ended so a list of suggestions on what to do would be helpful for example. Overall pretty cool MVP tho. Excited to see what's next!

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #304

The hardware device itself is a bit of a red herring. It's really a server-side LLM that is trained to use software on your behalf, presumably against server-side Android/Chrome VMs that you authenticate to various apps/services with OAuth. At first it seems a bit like a kludge, but I don't really see any other way to create the dream sci-fi robot assistant. It has to be able to do things as you, and it would be impo…

Put this way, $199 seems overpriced!

It doesn't cover that many months of expensive GPU compute and Chrome VMs, though. The "No Subscription" promise is very dubious unless this is a play for selling user data.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#364
Other links for figuring out what this is:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/9/24030667/rabbit-r1-ai-acti... (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38933819, but no comments there)

https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/09/can-a-striking-design-set-... (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38932575, but no comments there)

https://www.tomsguide.com/reviews/rabbit-r1

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#365

$199 with no subscription? You must have to bring your own data sim card. Or can it get its connection from your phone? And is the AI stuff running locally on the device? Impressive if so. Suspicious if not; there's no way the service remains free forever. Pretty compelling price, and I'm certain the vision of AI agents that can use any existing app or website to take actions on your behalf is the future of computing…

The AI runs on their cloud. It's unfortunate but the industry is only starting to catch onto on-device models language models.

Really, so this whole thing could be a $9.99 app on my existing phone :-). And if it is that good then I can delete all the other apps.

Ah already have ChatGPT installed, that'll do :-).

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right after you stopped watching, he books an entire vacation - flights, hotel, car rental, activities - and says he is given multiple options to choose from but shows none of the options, just an itinerary that he quickly scrolls through.

The idea that anyone is going to book a vacation this way is ridiculous. Vacations take extensive thought. There’s no way a voice interface would work for this even if it was the Star Trek computer.

No one ever shows what these should and could actually be used for - incredibly boring and repetitive tasks. "Hey rabbit, respond to the support ticket you just told me about with XYZ". "Hey rabbit, find all of the sales meetings I had last week, cross reference the emails of the attendees with existing emails threads, and then generate follow ups for each. Keep them short, to the point, and read them back to me before you send"

Like where is this? This is what I want. Not some voice assisted way of booking an Uber or some shit.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #298

In the linked keynote, Jesse Lyu mentions that LLM won't help us actually do tasks - there are currently no so-called "agents" that do something simple like book a flight - the best way to do it is still to click the buttons yourself. Rabbit means to solve that by creating a "LAM", a "Large Action model", which is a service by Rabbit that will click interfaces for you. I'm not sure this is the right approach - if it…

actually agent frameworks are becoming very popular now https://github.com/joaomdmoura/crewAI

its been such a long year, I still remember the month of gpt...what was it, not gpt4all...gpt...ah whatever. The "running an LLM in a loop will solve it" approach. I'm not a big fan, I'd need to see something truly transformative.

This seems to be a Langchain wrapper, where the Langchain is a prompt + retrieval based on a few documents.

ex. `https://github.com/joaomdmoura/crewAI-examples/tree/main/sto...` ``` BrowserTools.scrape_and_summarize_website, SearchTools.search_internet, CalculatorTools.calculate, SECTools.search_10q, SECTools.search_10k ```

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