NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

Post by zlg_codes » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:19 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #63

judge2020 wrote: post #30

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What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

People will always rationalize their not paying. Tracking, ethics, whatever. Anything other than abstaining from use, lol.

Post by fariss » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

sigmar wrote: post #24

I've been using this on android for more than 6 years. Love being able to quickly download a local copy of video or music as I'm boarding a flight or train. Highly recommend getting it using fdroid instead of apk because there have been points when youtube made changes that break the app and you'll need to get the latest update

Post by zlg_codes » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:27 PM UTC

Dlanv wrote: post #297

_heimdall wrote: post #289

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This a a very different situation. Stores are selling products or services, and they explicitly put prices on the products. Content available freely online is much different, as there is no price and at best the hope is that the consumer sees an ad or sponsorship and that the content creator has accurate analytics as to how many saw the ads. Your analogy would be more akin to someone stealing access to paywalled cont…

Video streaming sites have a cost to create. The price is ads or paying for a paid service like YouTube premium. So you're still stealing, you just convince yourself it's ok, and that's fine.

Post by zlg_codes » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:35 PM UTC

cjmcqueen wrote: post #291

globular-toast wrote: post #254

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Why would I want to pay for anything? Consumers generally seek the lowest possible price. That's how economics works. YouTube wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't "free". I do pay for my internet connection and bandwidth. But obviously I found the best possible deal. There is the busking model and I do choose to contribute a small amount to a small number of creators that I can tell put a lot of cash and effort into t…

Hiding behind theories of consumer behavior is not an excuse for immoral actions. Open source was never meant to be the place where open theft and piracy should thrive. And, the Robinhood sentiment isn't really applicable here because you're stealing from creators. YouTube may be owned by a multi billion dollar corporation, but it does support and bootstrapped a vibrant creator community. The more time we spend steal…

Post by alkonaut » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 11:44 PM UTC

meindnoch wrote: post #281

alkonaut wrote: post #78

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Yes, but the server knows exactly what frames it has sent you and when. If you don't want to watch the ad frames there's nothing the server can do, but it can make sure to not send you the frame that comes after the ad, until the 10 seconds of the ad has passed since it sent you the last frame before the ad.

So basically you would disallow pre-buffering more than an ad's worth of video? I'm not sure about that...