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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Bandwidth costs money, YouTube can probably do it cheaper than end users at scale. But this isn’t about reduced bandwidth expenses, this is about maximising profit extraction.

> But this isn’t about reduced bandwidth expenses, this is about maximising profit extraction. Arent these goals one and the same? Profit maximization is required under a capitalist system. By optimizig bandwidth expenses, you are achieving profit maximization.

No, the cost of bandwidth is less than their subscription value, presumably providing this option would result in less profit despite lower server costs, but they already have a global CDN so I assume it’s cost is relatively low anyway. I imagine if this was a path they wanted to go down, they could crowdsource it via chrome directly, without providing any positive value for users.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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If you watch YouTube enough you'll basically become aware of all the sponsors pretty quickly (and may even be a customer of some already!), so any exposure beyond that is a waste of time for all involved - if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

>if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either. There is still value to the sponser in keeping a brand fresh in your mind

Not for me.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #45

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

I really don't care about sponsor block (I mean I don't mind these parts of the videos), but adblock on YouTube is absolutely essential. And these apps usually when they have adblocl this includes sponsor block.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #45

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Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Really? They will die? Are you suggesting that long form video didn’t exist before YouTube sponsors? Innovation requires disruption, which requires competition, which YouTube has none of. If you want long form video content to survive in the medium to long term it needs to be possible to make a living in a diversity of ways and not be dependent on just one provider. So in that sense supporting the existing system onl…

Are you saying that YT takes 45% of the money a YouTuber negotiates directly with a sponsor to talk about them for 1-2 minutes in a long-form video?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Highly recommend using F-Droid-capable phones/mobile support systems. Perhaps one day the iOS ecosystem will recognize the economic value of democratizing the platform, but until that day it's better to use open source software and as open of hardware as possible.

This is good advice. If you own an iOS device you should consider not owning an iOS device.

I would love not to, but there is not a single human-sized (as in can be operated by human hand) android phone on the market that is also not a slow budget ohone. Now there is no iphone either, but the last minis should last a while.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

I don't mind paying for services. I mind paying to get the privilege my data exploited. I mind paying to a company that use its infinite bags of money to outspend any competition unfairly. I mind paying after getting blackmailed to accept a new deal when they made sure they left no other choice in the market. I mind paying for a service that is optimized for "engagement" instead of my own well-being. I mind paying to…

> I mind paying for a service that is optimized for "engagement" instead of my own well-being.

> I mind paying to a company that doesn't know the time to stop growing and wants to crawl into every aspect of my life.

It's worth recognising that as an ad-supported service, YouTube has an incentive to maximise the watch-time of its users and that this incentive goes away when a user starts paying monthly. But until they begin to earn more from subscriptions than ads I can't see how this changes. Maybe there's a universe in which the adblock crackdown actually accelerates the decline in ad-viewership and YouTube becomes incentivised to stop cramming cheap ad-friendly content down our throats and becomes a platform for actual high-quality content. For now, it's probably better to support platforms that actually already work on this model such as Nebula.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #28
post #4

For iOS users, check out “yattee” for a similar setup

Highly recommend using F-Droid-capable phones/mobile support systems. Perhaps one day the iOS ecosystem will recognize the economic value of democratizing the platform, but until that day it's better to use open source software and as open of hardware as possible.

The parent comment was a suggestion for an iOS alternative.

Why did you feel the urge to push unsolicited advice? I honestly don’t get it.

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