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Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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I used to defend crypto a lot (now just a little). Especially the UBI attempts. But no. World coin has always looked like a thinly veiled attempt to generate a biometric dataset which would later be used against its users. I just don't know who its audience was supposed to be. If you're suspicious enough of fiat to want this kind of escape hatch, how can you simultaneously be trusting enough to embrace a system that…

Because 90% of the people who got into crypto did not give a fuck about "trust" or any of the nonsense blockchains claim they do and only wanted to hit the lottery on the next coin going to the moon.

Oh it's totally in the 95% grift part of crypto. I'm just saying that it stands out from the rest because it targets a virtually non-existent demographic. Most scams try to cast a wide net.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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post #283

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Orbs will be open sourced and audited. Long-term they aren't storing anything other than the iris hash.

You can opt in for storage of the iris image itself to ensure that further modification of the hash algorithm do not force you to re-scan you eye.

But then your actual biometrics can get taken by the government, as illustrated in OP raid on warehouses.

Or Worldcoin leadership could use your biometrics for whatever they want e.g. stalking as done at Uber or forking their coin to fund a new ICO.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Governments already exist. To try and upend them by replacing their system of personhood and currency is in effect the tech-bro version of a mutiny. It may seem ridiculous but that's precisely what crypto is. An attempt to replace central banks and governments. Tech companies have grown very powerful, and they see an opportunity to create a world-wide "private government" and they're going for it. This won't be the l…

Neat, so are all world governments going to band together and implement UBI? Do you really think that waiting for all world governments to come together and figure this out is the right move here? I admire the optimism (I think of myself as a pretty optimistic person too), but you've got to realize that there are reasonable people on this planet who think that waiting for governments to fix this is probably not going…

Look at the track record of the people involved, at the track record of crypto, do you think they are really going to give anyone money because of ethics?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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You can opt in for storage of the iris image itself to ensure that further modification of the hash algorithm do not force you to re-scan you eye.

But then your actual biometrics can get taken by the government, as illustrated in OP raid on warehouses. Or Worldcoin leadership could use your biometrics for whatever they want e.g. stalking as done at Uber or forking their coin to fund a new ICO.

Oh absolutely. It sounds disingenuous from them to say they only store hash and also push to store the actual full capture.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Yeah but "scanning people's eyeballs to build a database" is untrue. You can scare a lot of people by telling them untrue stuff.

Yeah but "scanning people's eyeballs to build a database" is untrue. That is literally what he is doing. People walk up to an "orb," get their eyeballs scanned, and a unique key goes into a database. What part of the parent's statement is untrue?

The purpose is to build a financial system although data is involved. It's a bit like saying banking is a scheme to get your financial data. I mean banks have your data but it's not the purpose.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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There is a lot of fraud with current methods of charity in developing countries. Worldcoin is working to address that.

why are you shilling worldcoin on this website?

why are you baselessly attacking worldcoin on this website?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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They've been deploying orbs and scanning for more than half a year.

Officially they launched 2 weeks ago. You wouldn’t count the time from 2010 to 2022 where Liz Truss was in Parliament as part of her premiership. From what I understand, until the end of July when they launched, WLD was not yet available to people.

the token itself had not launched, but basically everything else was in place

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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That's not what he said. He said people that won't trust any platform [regardless of the reassurances, auditing, open source nature, etc] are welcome to not sign up. I assume the somewhat pointed subtext of what Sam said is also that if you're going to be a hater no matter what, he doesn't seem the point in engaging with you.

As much as the whole worldcoin thing is bizarre and dystopian, I do sort of enjoy the nouveau nihilistic take that you can’t trust or believe anything anyone says anyways, so if trust matters to you, you might want to stay away from the digital future.

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Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Expanding the comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37037606 Cryptocurrency systems proposed ways to handle the creation and management of monetary systems without government involvement. The implementation of such systems is open to definition by the designers of the system, and is extremely fluid. Most cryptocurrencies chose to go with the bitcoin model, which encouraged speculation and early buy-in, b…

The distribution portion of UBI is the least interesting from a theoretical and technical standpoint. Giving money to people is easy, and a solved problem, which is basically what I've been saying. Funding that money is the hard part, and the portion that basically requires a government because it's likely to be taxation that does it. Some crypto company trying to help enable UBI by solving the identifiability and di…

OTOH, the impossibility of getting UBI on the government side is actually motivating adoption: sure, you've got a central identity repository, etc, but it will never happen in our lifetime (in the US) if you need 60 senators to vote for it... This is, IMO, basically insurmountable - we've seen governments toying with UBI but I seriously doubt we'll see any government pull the trigger in any reasonable timeframe.
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