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Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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This project builds a global identity database even if the crypto part disappears. Their tokenomics are a mess and their CEO openly admitted to market manipulation recently. Good on Kenya for shutting this down, I hope many more follow.

It doesn't create or track identities. It creates a unique hash of your iris and can only use it to determine if your iris has been scanned before. Nothing else.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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I know a lot of people will use this to say that blockchain bad, and that is up to you. But really biometrics collection has little to do with blockchain. Worldcoin is firstly a company that collects biometrics and secondly they decided to use an immutable ledger to record the data (although they claim that it is only hashes). That aside if I wanted to record a bunch of hashes for perpetuity blockchain would actually…

you forgot the shitcoinery - there is a token, with a premine, unfairly distributed. the VCs that invested (SBF, a16z,etc) will benefit disproportionately. it’s a scam.

There are legitimate reasons to premine, and creating a token with the intention of using it as a channel for UBI (literally giving money away) doesn't really scream "scam" to me considering the people backing it

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#263

Related: Sam Altman saying himself that users who are concerned about privacy should not sign up: https://youtu.be/4HFyXYvMwFc?t=3186

That's not what he said. He said people that won't trust any platform [regardless of the reassurances, auditing, open source nature, etc] are welcome to not sign up. I assume the somewhat pointed subtext of what Sam said is also that if you're going to be a hater no matter what, he doesn't seem the point in engaging with you.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#264
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment confuses me. What exactly was the half baked effort to hypnotize the global south? Raiding Worldcoin?

Worldcoin/OpenAI I would bet sama is just an asset, and is not literally planning (or perhaps even aware of) this.

The person involved in starting both of these companies that were transparently doing these bad things didn't know or plan it?

Stop bending over backwards to excuse bad behavior from bad people.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#265

"Worldcoin, founded by US tech entrepreneur Sam Altman, offers free crypto tokens to people who agree to have their eyeballs scanned." Can anyone say how much each of those crypto tokens are worth in $USD?

> Can anyone say how much each of those crypto tokens are worth in $USD? https://coinmill.com/WDC_calculator.html

> The exchange rate for the WorldCoin was last updated on October 21, 2019.

This is a different token. And I wouldn't trust a site with such outdated rates.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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post #65

I'm actually surprised how rapidly this went downhill exactly how people were warning it would.

2 weeks after launch and a government is already able to disrupt their operations? Liz Truss lasted as Prime Minister for longer than that.

They've been deploying orbs and scanning for more than half a year.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#267

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I don't know what you mean. If you're denying people access to the system based on where they happen to be, it's not universal.

> If you're denying people access to the system based on where they happen to be, it's not universal. “Universal” seems to be a later construction, it was originally “unconditional”, and in both cases the writings on it for many years under either name made it clear that the reference was principally freedom from means- and behavior-testing, contrary to status-quo welfare programs, but that it would target a populati…

That's fair. The "no borders" crowd was my introduction to the topic, so I guess I'm ignorant of the other side.

Is there a book or something you'd recommend?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#268

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In essence, they aspire to be a Palantir competitor. CIA as a Service

Sam Altman and Thiel are friends. This isn't a competitor, this is a Palintir data source.

What data is Worldcoin collecting that palintir would care about?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#269

Why does this have to be a crypto currency? My ssn is not a currency and it is used for id. Why can't it be like that, a database of id's? Should we make our drivers licenses or passports into crypto currencies? What is the advantage?

Well you see, me and my SV rich buddies can't pre-mine and then sell a driver's license.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

#270

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Sadly, I liked the original idea behind this, and thought it was one of the few actually-interesting applications of crypto currency. If you can (somehow) solve the unique identity problem, you can design a Universal Basic Income using a crypto-currency as backing. The Unique ID problem isn't solved by the blockchain, though, so it ends up being a total mess.

Governments already exist. To try and upend them by replacing their system of personhood and currency is in effect the tech-bro version of a mutiny. It may seem ridiculous but that's precisely what crypto is. An attempt to replace central banks and governments. Tech companies have grown very powerful, and they see an opportunity to create a world-wide "private government" and they're going for it. This won't be the l…

LOL. "Sam Altman" is not trying to upend governments. It's the opposite. Him and his ilk are trying to interface with governments in such a way that they can use the legal violence of a government to streamline the integration of their systems (schemes) into the public's life. Sam Altman wants to use the same play book that pharmaceutical and defense industry's use (regulatory crony capitalist capture). This is not "tech bro" mutiny this is -- probably -- the first of many crony capitlist (BlackRock\Ratheon\Etc\Etc) attempts at duplicitous digital currency.
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