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Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Is that legal in the USA? Entering into a purchase agreement ("koopovereenkomst", not sure if I'm translating the jargon correctly) and then just not paying? Because that's certainly not legal where I live. I understand that the odds of repercussions are small and that there are no damages on Adobe's side since you haven't physically taken their goods so it would probably have to be taken up by the public prosecutor…

I did the same. I just stopped paying and told my CC company to block transactions because I never agreed to them. Adobe is very unclear about what you’re actually agreeing to up until the point you’re cancelling. I just blocked transactions and never heard from them again (except for some emails). If they want to fight it, good luck winning it in Dutch courts when the conditions are unclear.

Have they changed their presentation? The details pages on https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html are clear enough that the lower prices are "Annual plan, paid monthly".

It's hidden behind a click of course, but it isn't obscure.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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This is a common mistake when it comes to cloud synchronization with an equally simple fix. When you compare a set of items A on the user device against a set of items B on the cloud you should FIRST check (either through file name, hash or creation/modification timestamp) that:

- An item in A is not present in B before uploading it to B. - An item in A is present in B and has changed on A before updating it on B. - An item in A is present in B and has changed on B before updating it on A. - An item in B was present on A but it's no longer there before deleting it from B. - An item in A was present on B but it's no longer there before deleting it from A.

Seriously, this is the ABC of cloud sync. Many free products also got it right. There's no excuse for the engineers at Adobe not to get it right in their overpriced products.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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OK, seriously now...first Canon, now Adobe? Am I missing something here, what's going on?!

Adobe is in full monopolist mode, where they have lock-in and can force users to pay for not just poor functionality, but disasters like this. Bridge 2020 is more or less totally broken on Catalina, and has been since release almost a year ago. CC 2019 version works perfectly (but only with PS 2019). It's mind-boggling that a company with this much revenue can just wreck one of their products, keep shipping it and co…

> It's mind-boggling that a company with this much revenue can just wreck one of their products, keep shipping it and collecting money and not give a shit.

Bundle subscriptions are corporatized communism for apps.

From each, according to our quarterly reporting needs; to each, whatever the fuck we deign to give them.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "updates are recommended", followed by "updates are strongly recommended", and more recently, "updates are mandatory". This is 5 years old, today we are doing: Updates happen in background automatically without user knowing and sometimes when autoupdated software is being used at the time, it crashes when new action is performed and all not saved user data is lost. Move fast, break things!

That's my experience every time Firefox updates these days through unattended-upgrades. The sad thing is that it handled it just fine without crashing up until a few years ago.

A quick scroll trough the settings page shows me you can turn the automatic updates off if you want. Also not something i've experienced. Have you checked whether the crash isn't caused by some weird addon or the like?

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Does anybody know a good photo management software that's not Lightroom? I don't actually need to do edits to my photos - I need to manage my photo library. Lightroom is not great at it but is passable - is there anything else? What I'm looking for is software that: - Is fast - Is capable of leaving photos where they are ("import-in-place"). - imports photos from card to NAS, organized by time ( year/month/day) - all…

Photo Mechanic[0] is by far the best photo management software out there.

[0]https://home.camerabits.com/

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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What if you have timestamped file metadata l, but not tge data, or checksumed IDS records? Would that qualify as sufficient evidence?

No. It's evidence that something was lost, but not a measure of the actual damages you suffered. Whose to say if you lost $100 or $100k? In the absence of the lost material there's most likely no way to demonstrate anything. In this case some sort of statutory deterrent would probably be a much more effective solution. I honestly doubt that regulation is a good solution here though - bugs like this are so severe from…

It's evidence that something was lost, but not a measure of the actual damages you suffered

That has never stopped those other knights of IP theft, the RIAA and MPAA

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

I can recommend Affinity Designer as an Illustrator replacement.

I bought it when it was released and still waiting to be able to work properly with groups.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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This is a common mistake when it comes to cloud synchronization with an equally simple fix. When you compare a set of items A on the user device against a set of items B on the cloud you should FIRST check (either through file name, hash or creation/modification timestamp) that: - An item in A is not present in B before uploading it to B. - An item in A is present in B and has changed on A before updating it on B. -…

Spend one day trying to work on a graphic design project with the file saved in the Creative Cloud sync folder. The amount of "filename (Sync Issue1).ai" files you'll see accumulate will make you never want to use it again.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

Sketch and Figma are amazing for UI work in vector.

Sketch is super bloated. Once you project grows perf starts to degrade quickly. Also working with groups is not great.
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