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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere.

I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though.

I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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When things like this happen, is it any wonder an increasing number of users are viewing any sort of "updates" with extreme apprehension? "It was working fine just before, and now I've lost everything. Why should I have even updated!?!?" I still remember when the general advice was "do not upgrade/change what works, unless you need something in a later version", which then changed to "updates are recommended", follow…

It's terrible when it happens, but it's important not to focus too much on one risk. A software update deleting your work isn't the only risk, and it's probably not the most common risk.

For an iPhone or iPad, the device getting lost or broken is probably the most common issue. Avoiding updates won't be of any help if that happens. Keeping backups will help for more risks.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Obviously this is a screw up on Adobe's part, but this is a good time to remind everyone that if you're not backing up your data, then it must not be very important to you. Back up your stuff! You never know when something unexpected will cause you to lose it!

Is there an alternative to iCloud for backing up the iPhone? I’ve kind of given up on checking what’s aloud this year.

Local backups have always been an option, both encrypted and unencrypted.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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They've also pulled off an incredibly hostile move for paid users of older Lightrooms - they're refusing to update it for 64bit-only OS X. The app itself is 64bit (in fact, the app itself is _only_ 64bit), but its licensing/installer components are not. So if you update OS X, it's not guaranteed that Lightroom (that you paid for) will run, or if it does, how long it will continue running for. This isn't some ancient…

Its worse than that (from 2019) "Adobe this week began sending some users of its Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, Premiere, Animate, and Media Director programs a letter warning them that they were no longer legally authorized to use the software they may have thought they owned." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-...

I don't know why this is such a shock to people reading HN. EULAs have always granted a license to use typically on a single computer. They have never granted a license to own (would gladly be proven wrong if someone has an example). It's not your code. You can't own it. I'm sure they are concerned about having to support the legacy code. Yes, converting to 100% subscription based users, but if they can pull the plug on any responsibility to support old code, that would be ideal for them.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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post #61

Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

On what platform? Nuke is an amazing replacement for AE.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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There's one winner here: the law firm that puts together the class action.

Did anything happen to Microsoft when a windows update lost users files? I don't remember hearing anything about users receiving any kind of compensation. Don't know why Adobe's blunder would be any different

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Is there an alternative to iCloud for backing up the iPhone? I’ve kind of given up on checking what’s aloud this year.

Your computer.

Which can then be backed up offsite if you find the folder the backup is stored in.

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Apparently they're doing pretty well. Don't expect them to change course. But this created the opportunity for others. I have migrated to Affinity photo + Capture One. No regrets.

How did you find the migration? I’ve been resisting Lightroom upgrades as I don’t want the cloud stuff. But as raw support for new cameras falls off it’s getting harder since the two step DNG import is such a pain. Moving to Capture One or something else seems worthwhile. Tried Darktable but wasn’t a big fan.

I bought Affinity Photo and I am not enjoying the migration. Having used Photoshop for 20 years, there is so much muscle memory for a lot of tasks that were quick and are much slower now. It's really hard to learn and easy to feel disgruntled when you know you could have been done in a few seconds in Photoshop. I'm considering running CS6 in a VM or paying for the damn subscription.
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