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Keybase's side of the announcement: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty o…
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> The fact that they hired Alex Stamos and ... Call my cynical, but "hiring" a bunch of infosec celebrities and critics as part-time consultants or contractors should be considered nothing but a (brilliant and silencing) PR move until the day that product updates and analyses reveal otherwise.
> until the day that product updates and analyses reveal otherwise. The product (and their poor installer practice) has been updated several times in the past few months alone, and each move has made Zoom a more secure product, with the vast majority of the hubbub having been addressed. So are you simply ignoring that, or are you setting your own personal goalposts?
What a solid and useful product Keybase was! I'm ashamed that I didn't see this coming. Now I have to find a replacement that isn't compromised.
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I don’t necessarily read it that way. Keybase is 100% functional and has worked well for a long time. Zoom needs people who know how to make modern client software and chat if they want to compete with the Slacks and Teams, etc. You can’t even screen share on wayland... it’s that bad. If keybase ultimately gets secure video, and zoom a security architecture overhaul, how is that a bad thing?
Who gives a fuck about Wayland, honestly? It seems like it was designed by people who didn't like the few good things about X and wanted something to further fracture the Linux desktop. Well, they got it. > Zoom needs people who know how to make modern client software It's the best video client available on Windows / Mac and works acceptably on Linux, what exactly needs to be more "modern" about it? Slack's video cal…
Now, why Canonical decided to go off and write Mir instead of collaborating on Wayland development, I have no idea.
So, the company that got bribed by a shitcoin promoter to backdoor the keybase app so it can abuse your secret keybase identity keys to place permanent, non-removable shitcoin ads on your profile[1] (and then immediately denied that it was a backdoor and also lied about implementing the ability for users to remove the ads keybase got paid to place[2]) is now joining up with the company that has shipped sketchy backdo…
From your second link a commenter actually steps through the flow: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21116981 It seems pretty clear from that description that the user consents to signing... I think it’s annoying to see wallet and chat when all I really cared about was a discoverable public key, but it doesn’t appear to be a backdoor signing method.
Honest question, why does Zoom’s security reputation matter more than Keybase’s? There’s so much pessimism in here but I really don't get it. I disliked zoom long before any of the security issues because frankly it’s rough, unpolished, software that’s never really worked well for me. I, for one, would be excited to get a functional Zoom with better security integrated into Keybase as an option for UI so that you hav…
Tech doesn't matter nearly so much as market. Marrying better tech chops to better market potential is a rather better investor storytime.
(Doesn't mean it'll work, doesn't mean Keybase tech will, or won't, survive. But the plave to be is Zoom's niche with Keybase's clue.)
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I saw that coming when they shoehorned a pointless cryptocurrency that nobody uses into it.
It was actually a really nice stellar wallet implementation. A bad bet perhaps, in hindsight. Unfortunately, this acquisition means I won’t be using it anymore for the foreseeable future.
It was badly implemented, badly introduced, and harmful for both users and adoption of the platform.
For years people have been begging Keybase to allow them to pay them for the service and Chris Coyne always refused. Now they've lost their independence and they're owned by a communication company that has [edit: the majority of] its dev team in China. I use Keybase to talk to my friend in China since it's one of the few services they don't block. This is a pretty disappointing outcome.
> communication company that has its entire dev team in China citation needed Also, what are you trying to imply by this assertion?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/24/uk-governmen...
The implication is that China is hostile and leverages their power to censor/collect communication information from companies and their people without checks on this power.
They are aggressive in stealing IP from other companies and blocking software they can't control. They have history of wielding their power to pressure organizations to deny or ignore aspects of their history that they dislike (Taiwan, Cultural Revolution) and they pressure companies to hand over PII on people they find to be political threats without due process.
This is not a country you want to be a steward of an encryption identity standard.
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Sure! The idea is that each proprietary project is wasting effort implementing their own clones of everyone else's software. To use your example, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Yandex etc etc are all developing their own search engines. Instead they could all be contributing to one search engine to push the state of search engine software forward, instead of all spinning their wheels re-doing what everyone else is doing.…
Open source software is (I would argue) even more driven to fragmentation by political, ideological, and personality conflict driven squabbles than proprietary software, as there is no profit motive to also satisfy. Also, the broken window thing asserts that small amounts of criminal activity lead to larger amounts of criminal activity via signaling that being bad or neglectful is OK, which is both not proven and irr…