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Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by geerlingguy »

ithkuil wrote: post #40
Communitivity wrote: post #26

Given the security concerns around Zoom, and the apparent lack of QC that might have prevented those concerns, this news is appalling. I love Keybase, it's used by many people, but I suspect it will now die a quick death. More accurately I suspect it will slide into a coma - not quite dead, but not in wide use anymore either.

why not look at the problem the other way around? I don't have much respect for zoom's security practices, while I do have much respect for the keybase team. Perhaps this is Zoom's way of admitting that there is no way they can just solve the problem internally by keeping doing what they're doing and they need to get some fresh blood and build upon good practices designed outside their current culture.

I'll take what you're drinking ;-)

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

#52

Post by INTPenis »

roblabla wrote: post #34

Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…

How can they be so obvlivious though? Their own blog post doesn't even mention the tarnished reputation Zoom has acquired lately.

A lot of people will stop developing integrations for Keybase because of this. It's sad.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

#53

Post by ddevault »

Keybase helped me to identify a trend in the software industry: using a pretty UI to cover up the disruption of an open ecosystem with a closed, centralized replacement. Keybase seemed cool on the face of it - making encryption easier is a laudible goal, and PGP certainly could use the improvement. But, thanks to Keybase, now I ask different questions upfront. Beware the Keybase formula:

1. Integrates with an existing, open ecosystem

2. May have open-source clients, but server is closed source and does not federate

3. Pretty UI and good marketing

4. VC funded

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

#54

Post by rvz »

> Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands

Well, that definitely translates to uncertainty and ultimately the death of Keybase.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

#55

Post by andrepd »

ithkuil wrote: post #40
Communitivity wrote: post #26

Given the security concerns around Zoom, and the apparent lack of QC that might have prevented those concerns, this news is appalling. I love Keybase, it's used by many people, but I suspect it will now die a quick death. More accurately I suspect it will slide into a coma - not quite dead, but not in wide use anymore either.

why not look at the problem the other way around? I don't have much respect for zoom's security practices, while I do have much respect for the keybase team. Perhaps this is Zoom's way of admitting that there is no way they can just solve the problem internally by keeping doing what they're doing and they need to get some fresh blood and build upon good practices designed outside their current culture.

Then why acquire? Why not just hire as a consultant?

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by mc32 »

INTPenis wrote: post #52
roblabla wrote: post #34

Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…

How can they be so obvlivious though? Their own blog post doesn't even mention the tarnished reputation Zoom has acquired lately. A lot of people will stop developing integrations for Keybase because of this. It's sad.

They’re not oblivious but two things; you don’t bite the hand that feeds and it’s easier to get someone to see your side of things when you agree with them. Confrontation will not help to fix Zoom’s culture of insecurity.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by DCKing »

People are expressing they will stop using Keybase because of this. That's fine, probably a good idea.

But reading this, Zoom+Keybase will make sure of this themselves. This press release indicates that this is a 100% acquihire. There's only talk about what the Keybase people will be tasked to do, and there isn't any talk about Keybase's services in the first place. There's no real reason Zoom would be interested in keeping Keybase's services up and running anyway.

Let's hope they make it a swift death. Shame about Keybase, loved using it so far. It's somewhat encouraging to see a change in direction for Zoom, too. Hope the acquihire works out.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

This sounds like an acquihire, or am I reading it wrong? If so, I doubt anyone at keybase is necessarily thrilled about this.

I’ve enjoyed keybase for many years, it made a lot of annoyances of encryption and key management easy. I particularly liked its encrypted git repo feature—now I’m struggling to think of an easy alternative.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by [deleted] »

INTPenis wrote: post #52
roblabla wrote: post #34

Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…

How can they be so obvlivious though? Their own blog post doesn't even mention the tarnished reputation Zoom has acquired lately. A lot of people will stop developing integrations for Keybase because of this. It's sad.

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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by dcow »

roblabla wrote: post #34

Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…

I don’t necessarily read it that way. Keybase is 100% functional and has worked well for a long time. Zoom needs people who know how to make modern client software and chat if they want to compete with the Slacks and Teams, etc. You can’t even screen share on wayland... it’s that bad. If keybase ultimately gets secure video, and zoom a security architecture overhaul, how is that a bad thing?
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