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Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by neltnerb »

tobylane wrote: post #219
rvz wrote: post #54

> Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands Well, that definitely translates to uncertainty and ultimately the death of Keybase.

@Keybase users: Check if you uploaded your private key. I hope it is rare but now is the time to make that non existent.

I signed up so long ago that I'm not quite sure what you mean. I remember posting a bunch of public keys (like on my profile here). I think the keybase app generated them along with a private key but it has been like three years.

I don't remember at all uploading one or where to find it if I did, can you explain the issue you have in mind a little more?

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by RMPR »

Hitton wrote: post #237
RMPR wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to complain about your desktop Electron app but it seems that spectral[0] is already usable without any hassle (build from source, ...) at least on Fedora, time to reactivate my Matrix account, keep up with the great work 0: https://gitlab.com/spectral-im/spectral

Alternatively Mirage[0] - Qt + Python. There is really a lot to choose from with Matrix. The beauty of open protocol. [0]: https://github.com/mirukana/mirage

Seems like on Fedora the only mirage available is Mirage the image viewer

http://mirageiv.sourceforge.net/

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by ammmir »

Keybase was almost the perfect Slack-killer for security-minded teams, except it had a few wiggles, including their sluggish client. I believe there is an opportunity for someone to capture the users who are about to be abandoned by this transaction, if they implement a subset of the Keybase client functionality like team chat, shared files/git repos, but get rid of the crypto wallet nonsense. I, and others, would gladly pay $10/mo for this.

Matrix isn't the answer. That's like saying just use SMTP for email.

The slackification of Keybase did not lead to a viable business model, unfortunately. In fact, it's such a no brainer, I can't wait for someone to build Keybase 2.0. It might not be a VC enterprise, but could be a great lifestyle business for a small team.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by justusthane »

In case it's helpful to anyone, to uninstall on MacOS:

  # keybase uninstall
And then delete the app from Applications (recommend using AppCleaner to delete the app, as it leaves behind almost a GB of stuff).

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by foobiekr »

cbg0 wrote: post #25

> Zoom does not and will not proactively monitor meeting contents, but our trust and safety team will continue to use automated tools to look for evidence of abusive users based upon other available data. > Zoom has not and will not build a mechanism to decrypt live meetings for lawful intercept purposes. > We also do not have a means to insert our employees or others into meetings without being reflected in the part…

The statement about lawful intercept can only be considered a blatant lie. It’s a requirement in China and CALEA applies in the US. Europe, India and Australia have their own laws around this.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by dasil003 »

xiphias2 wrote: post #246
roblabla wrote: post #34

Keybase' post about the acquisition: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom > What the Keybase team will be doing > Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty…

,,helping to make Zoom even more secure. '' Wow, this means that keybase stuff thinks that Zoom is secure already. Zoom should have hired people who don't think that way.

Keybase product and engineering do not think this way. Corporate PR thinks this way. Don't get it twisted.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by api »

rvz wrote: post #54

> Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands Well, that definitely translates to uncertainty and ultimately the death of Keybase.

I saw that coming when they shoehorned a pointless cryptocurrency that nobody uses into it.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by dcow »

plebian wrote: post #80
dcow wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t necessarily read it that way. Keybase is 100% functional and has worked well for a long time. Zoom needs people who know how to make modern client software and chat if they want to compete with the Slacks and Teams, etc. You can’t even screen share on wayland... it’s that bad. If keybase ultimately gets secure video, and zoom a security architecture overhaul, how is that a bad thing?

Zoom is actually one of the view applications that can screen share on Wayland I believe it's only enabled for a few distros though

If you know how to make that work I’m all ears. I run Debian testing, wayland, gnome. I tried to screen share yesterday and got a popup about how its not supported. Maybe mu zoom client is out-of-date?

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by danrl »

Congrats to the team for having a nice exit. I myself removed all my data from keybase und stopped using it. There is just no trust left on my side for Zoom and those who join Zoom in a business relationship. Indistinguishable from malware it has been for me. Disrespectful of my privacy and hard to remove from my machine. No, thanks. Nevertheless, wishing all the best for keybase.

Re: Zoom Acquires Keybase

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Post by Arathorn »

ryukafalz wrote: post #217
Arathorn wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've had per-room/per-message retention policies in Matrix for months now (although Riot hasn't exposed UX to configure them yet, as we were drowning in cross-signing work). https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/master/docs/messa... has the details.

Hmm, that document seems to indicate they're disabled by default in synapse though? >Note that over every server in the room, only the ones with support for message retention policies will actually remove expired events. This support is currently not enabled by default in Synapse.

True - we did a slow roll-out whilst testing. It should be okay to turn on everywhere now :)
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