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Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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As a New Zealander, I find it extraordinarily inappropriate that global infrastructure like the Internet is being shaped by the whims of US politics and corporate culture. The Internet is a global network of global concern and it should be above the manoeuvring of Republicans and American Internet providers

Yeah, that's because majority of the innovation that has happened in this space has happened in the USA. What were you expecting?

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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I am starting a small business. One of the decisions I must account for is network performance versus price. Perhaps I choose to partner with a company that my network deprioritizes. I am already at a disadvantage because I cannot afford to run my own lines or peer like large corporations. These same corporations can invest or purchase smaller new buisness and enhance their portfolio. Some already support network neu…

"Boo hoo it's so hard to do business!" is not going to cut it, I'm afraid. The government and all citizens do not exist to enable you to do business. The policy should be what's right, and it should preferably follow the basic principles of modern society: free market.

Whether NN enables competition or kills it is debatable. But difficulty in business is not a reason.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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Are there any examples of this happening?

What do you mean? I don't see the international community having ANY say on Net Neutrality. All the actors in the debate are American. What more do you want?

But on the other hand net neutrality is 99% hot air so the international community doesn't seem to be hurt by the debate.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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> cause a national crisis by tweeting "watch out China, nukes are coming" from Donald Trump's Twitter? Are you serious? That would cause actual people to die. And Twitter will end up with a huge lawsuit.

We're about 1 security breach away from Twitter becoming a serious national security issue. I hope Trump has 2FA to login, but if someone got past Twitters internal system and started tweeting as DT then really bad Shit could happen.

I would hope Twitter has taken extraordinary steps to secure the US president's account.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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(This comment is a little bit disorganized, so I apologize for that.) Far too many people don't seem to understand the arguments against net neutrality as it has been proposed... There's been much made about the "astroturfing" and automated comments on the FCC website that go against net neutrality-- but what about the reverse? John Oliver doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Reddit and HN provide warped pe…

> I don't think it's right to enshrine into law that Comcast can't offer her a plan where she pays $5/mo instead for limited access

Fair enough...

> to the few sites she uses.

My understanding is that it's this second bit that has people up in arms. Why does it matter what sites she uses? It's completely legal for an ISP to offer a hard-data-capped, low-cost plan even now.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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Hopefully the soldier is like Stanislav Petrov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

The world should have a national holiday in his honor. Possibly more deserved then any other human in history.

A few people have observed it informally:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=stanislav+petrov+day

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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>we (in the US) gave AI/meta-cognative-entities/"corporations" a type of inalienable right with the Citizens United ruling Holy shit I hadn't even considered this, this is awesome . New story idea.

In describing "Metacognates" to friends I often use the example of FedEx as a weird type of animal which eats gasoline and shits boxes on doorsteps.

I like this, I'm using it.

I'll contribute that this is a good way to explain to someone why corporations inherently care about their employees only to the extent of their usefulness.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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If Google were actually serious about Net Neutrality, they would use their insane market power to protect it. How? Well, a simple statement saying "any ISP who abuses net neutrality will have their customers cut off from Google products". No Google search, no YouTube, no Gmail. Have those requests instead redirect to a website telling the customer what their ISP is doing, why Google won't work with them, and how to c…

Google Netflix Facebook etc. could stand to benefit by being able to afford faster speeds than younger smaller companies. The cost to compete is going to be higher, thus easier to maintain monopoly status.

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

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If Google were actually serious about Net Neutrality, they would use their insane market power to protect it. How? Well, a simple statement saying "any ISP who abuses net neutrality will have their customers cut off from Google products". No Google search, no YouTube, no Gmail. Have those requests instead redirect to a website telling the customer what their ISP is doing, why Google won't work with them, and how to c…

I love this idea because I read too much cyberpunk. Why doesn't Twitter flex its muscle and cause a national crisis by tweeting "watch out China, nukes are coming" from Donald Trump's Twitter? That ruins trust in the platform, but what if they just banned the US president's account for TOS or something? Enormous amount of power. What if Musk's first ship to Mars had a hidden Railgun on it? "Anybody else that wants to…

I love all things cyberpunk.. whats your favorite story?

Re: Net Neutrality Day of Action: Help Preserve the Open Internet

#370

"Net Neutrality" in its final form did not solve or fix any problems with the Internet. The definition of "Net Neutrality" is poorly defined, too vague and does not have any proposed legislation attached to "fix" things. Even when new rules were implemented, ISPs still throttled torrents and manipulated traffic. The only way to fix the Internet is to do so from a technical perspective, not by adding more regulations…

I've mentioned a number of times before, but I'm actually advocating to my friends against their participation today for the reason that I believe, if the Evil ISP acts in a crumby way, that it will create demand for better service. And I think that's the only way to get to a Mesh Internet For The People, By The People. My position is that: We don't need big pipes (or millions of hours of television piped to us every…

Comcast is already despised by its customers. There is already demand for better service but most people don't have any other option. It is naive to think that the loss of net neutrality will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for Comcast.
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