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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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There's a definitive edition now that everyone plays and it also happens to be from literally Microsoft themselves..

And that definitive edition is listed as gold on ProtonDB.

Well now you guys have given me no excuse, RIP Windows on my gaming desktop 2019-2022.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I can understand why you might be skeptical. However, I have learned over the years as a developer investigating update issues that the constraints placed upon the update process to ensure compatibility and resiliency are complex. The nature of the process used for most Feature Updates requires user data and preference migration and transfer. Notably, an entirely new installation of Windows is created and then existi…

However, I have learned over the years as a developer investigating update issues that the constraints placed upon the update process to ensure compatibility and resiliency are complex. I have learned over the years that constraints and complexity are often abused to force one's way. Not necessarily even consciously but if the collective train of thought in a company predominantly wants to prefer one outcome (i.e. ma…

I appreciate that when unexpected outcomes occur it's tempting to vent frustrations and say things in a way intended to influence the feelings of others to validate our own frustrations and feelings. However, as a former colleague of mine (Bryan Cantrill) frequently reminds everyone, empathy is a core engineering value:

https://tritondatacenter.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun

I completed the second decade of my software development career just a few years ago and it already seems like the third decade is speeding by. The first 17 years were in the *nix world and the last five have been as part of the Windows development team.

There have been many times that I have incorrectly assumed why a particular outcome occurred only to find out later as I suddenly became responsible for that same scenario that they had good reasons for their choices, and it was either the best possible outcome at the time given constraints or very much an unintended one.

In short, I have been extremely fortunate to have a number of mentors during my career that have helped me realize that perspective and empathy are key to understanding the complexities of software development. Through those experiences I have come to believe that software development is just as much a social discipline as a technical one, especially at scale.

Thanks for your kind consideration.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Unlikey. PC gamers don't care if they're running Windows or Linux, they just want the top 10 games to run. Linux can't even do that.

And the business world will never switch to Linux.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

Don't bother with cleaning script, they can fuck things up, and the benefit is questionable, as it's a whack-a-mole basically. Windows 11 is not a hard requirement, and I don't think it will be in the coming few years, so I went with Windows 10 LTSC. Lots of useless crap is cut from it, so no Cortana, no Store, no Edge even, and no feature updates. There are security updates however! So it's a nice, stable, useful ed…

Real businesses will not put up with this nonsense and that's why LTSC exists.

I'm also wondering if you can just run server editions.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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It's 2022. Who runs Windows? Consumers moved to iOS and devs moved to Linux/macOS.

The only thing I have that needs Windows is a service DVD for a motorcycle and autocad fusion. Both work great in VMs for my occasional use. The VMs contain all the user toxicity from spreading to the rest of my environment.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Linux/*BSD may still be that awkward friend who sometimes misreads your intentions and causes awkward moments or knocks glasses over, but at least tries to respect you (snapd excepted). Windows these days doesn't seem to respect you. There's a difference in my mind between struggling to make your computer do something (because nobody made it easy yet) and struggling to make your computer do something (because a marke…

Apt-news made me finally leave Ubuntu after over a decade. I went to Debian and Arch depending.

Seeing ‘apt update’ shill r/Linux was the last straw after forcing-snap, forcing-Amazon ads, Wayland vs Mir, etc. I should have left years ago. Canonical, are you listening? Stop.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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When was the last time you tried Linux? I just replaced my entire computer (CPU, motherboard, GPU, etc) and my Debian (bookworm) installation booted with zero issues. No need to reinstall anything. I certainly remember fighting with xorg.conf settings, graphics drivers, and kernel modules in the past. I haven't had to deal with troubles like that in nearly 10 years though.

> When was the last time you tried Linux? Ugh. Like, literally every time someone talks about having problems with Linux this exact same sentence is said in response. I'm pretty much always trying Linux these days on various devices and I still constantly run into issues. Constantly . It's great that you have zero issues, but please consider that a lot of us aren't so fortunate.

Because 20 years ago using Linux meant that I had to deal with configuring ALSA, NDISWrapper, GRUB, CUPS, etc. whereas last night it took me less than 15 minutes to install Mint on a late-model ultrabook and have everything working perfectly. It's a real phenomenon.

Some vendors are better than others at Linux support. I would suggest sticking to Lenovo or Dell if you'd like a smooth experience.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #12

Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

Windows 10 'LTSC' sounds like what you want, I used it for some client projects.

The LTS release was meant for Kiosk and pseudo embedded applications but was pretty much a non hostil UX version of Windows 10. In comparison even Windows 10 Professional editions are very bloated.

I am not sure if they intend to have an analogue Windows 11 LTS but I suppose the need will probably be there for customers who are more Windows-centric.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Microsoft did a tremendous amount of hard work to convince me to make the effort to migrate away from Windows at home and at work. They want to lease me a word processor. They want to put ads in my digital filing cabinet. They want to take 30% of my software revenue, and when they realized they couldn't have it, they said they'd settle for 12%. No dice. There are zero Windows machines in my home or in my business rig…

I doubt Microsoft cares that you migrated away.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Why would you pay for this? Why would you even associate with a company who will not even sell you, a private individual, an option that does not include this? What about using Linux on the desktop is "difficult" enough to justify paying money to Microsoft for voluntary software servitude? * They will not tell you what data they collect about you * They will not allow you to disable data collection * They will not pe…

> Why would you pay for this?

Most people don't. They are reusing their windows 7 license from that one computer they got in 2010 or their windows 8 license they got for free in college.

Or they do not consider it "buying" it, as it was "free" with their computer.

> They will not permit you to define the default browser you use

They might reset it on updates once a year or something (it hasn't happened to me, but I heard others were not as fortunate) but you definitely can set it, right?

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