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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I've used Linux and Windows for more than a decade each. I know about desktop Linux' shortcomings and I was using Windows 10 in the last few years because it worked better than Linux for me. There is just too much stuff going on and performance suffers (especially when dealing with Docker for Windows). It also feels that I'm a guinea pig for PMs at Microsoft to experiment on new revenue generating features, but my operating system is not a place where I would want them. It hurts my focus.

Windows 11 finally sent me back to Linux. Despite a few bugs and annoyances here and there, I'm doing my work on Linux more productively than I was on Windows 11. Time to move on for me.

In the end, it feels like I'm not an important customer to Microsoft anymore (as a "power user"). It feels that their target audience are clueless grandmas that can be easily scammed into their products. I don't want this to sound aggressive. It really does feel that way.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I wish antitrust enforcement focused on this stuff again. Remember when MS merely including a web browser at all was brought into question?

> Remember when MS merely including a web browser at all was brought into question? The very first MS-DOS also included a text editor - for free! Oh, the humanity! Those evil Redmondians!

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Windows is still my favourite OS, but I surely am not rushing to adopt Windows 11 beyond work requirements. It is just another Vista.

> Windows is still my favourite OS Now there's an unpopular opinion if anything. I've heard the "yeah it's kind of shit, but the games/applications I use only really work with Windows" a million times, but this one is kind of new. Edit: this comment was indeed intended to be read in the context of HN crowd.

"kind of shit" - in what way? I'm dying to hear an intelligent complaint come from somebody because so far everything I'm reading (for Windows 10 at least) are mob mentality pitch-forky type of comments. You can read my comment on it to another post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33946821

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Why would you pay for this? Why would you even associate with a company who will not even sell you, a private individual, an option that does not include this?

What about using Linux on the desktop is "difficult" enough to justify paying money to Microsoft for voluntary software servitude?

* They will not tell you what data they collect about you

* They will not allow you to disable data collection

* They will not permit you to define the default browser you use

* They will not permit you to avoid advertisements disguised as valid system alerts

* They will delete your privacy settings without notification

* They will lock down your hardware so you physically can't install or modify the software

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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My experience leaving Windows was like yours... until I did a software upgrade or had to replace my graphics card, etc. Hours of fighting the command line, glitchy graphical bugs. For me, the desire to cultivate my linux computer like a garden ended up being a distraction from using my computer like the tool it is. Just my 2cents.

When was the last time you tried Linux? I just replaced my entire computer (CPU, motherboard, GPU, etc) and my Debian (bookworm) installation booted with zero issues. No need to reinstall anything. I certainly remember fighting with xorg.conf settings, graphics drivers, and kernel modules in the past. I haven't had to deal with troubles like that in nearly 10 years though.

Can't speak for the other guy but the latest Ubuntu update absolutely wrecked my desktop. No network, no graphics. It blew my mind because I haven't experienced anything like this in more than a decade.

This experience pushed me straight into rolling release territory but I'd imagine most people would go to MS immediately, or even Apple if PC gaming is not something they do

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Linux/*BSD may still be that awkward friend who sometimes misreads your intentions and causes awkward moments or knocks glasses over, but at least tries to respect you (snapd excepted). Windows these days doesn't seem to respect you. There's a difference in my mind between struggling to make your computer do something (because nobody made it easy yet) and struggling to make your computer do something (because a marke…

I think it's all about "intent" in summary.

After long enough it gets tiring battling people who's intent is ultimately maximum wealth extraction, rather than simply producing a good piece of software.

The intent behind most FOSS projects is just about the software, and sometimes we disagree on what and how (but that's why we have choices)... and some things are a bit creaky and come from different ages and don't fit perfectly together, but with a bit of fiddling and understanding you can gradually accumulate things that do what you want - and so it becomes more comfortable over time, not less, because they don't try to betray you at every turn.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I maintain a tiling window manager for Windows[1]. It's the only thing still keeping me on Windows right now. I run NixOS on WSL, and I have a separate NixOS desktop partition that I iterate on from time to time. Once I can make my tiling window manager X11-compatible, I think that will be it for me and Windows. The last update totally screwed me to the extent that I had to go into the registry and manually set my us…

Genuine question, but what's wrong with the tiling window managers already available for Linux?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Chrome as an example? They had an advert on top of the most successful search engine. Hardly a grassroots effort.

People won't bother with Linux, nor other alternative systems. Many don't even change the desktop wallpaper. The computer works out of the box, as it comes, and that's the end of the customization story. In order to achieve Linux majority, it needs to become the de facto standard: governments need to use it, schools need to teach it, and businesses need to use it. And it needs to come on computers preinstalled, compatible with all these other systems. Otherwise, no dice. The question is not technological - Linux has been fine for a long time now. It has been down to business, and Microsoft is good at business. That's it.

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