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This is called "sticking to your principles". It's a rare thing these days.
I have different principals than them
Good for you.
On the removal of Come Back Alive
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No, it isn't. The comment we're replying to here is about someone adding a message to their code repo that's shown to Russian viewers. Are you saying that if people don't do this, they support the Russian invasion? It seems pretty obvious when you get specific. It's simpleminded to divide people into two groups and say that anyone who doesn't agree with a _particular action_ is the enemy.
No, that's obviously not what I'm saying.
I'm glad, and I shouldn't try to pigeonhole you here either, I just think these types of conversations lose specificity quickly.
Person A: I'm doing to support Person B: You shouldn't do Person A (or more often, C): Inaction is equal to support / silence is violence
I think there is almost always more than one possible action, even in support of . Also, some well intentioned actions can hurt a cause, so inaction is obviously preferable. Or, there may be a third outcome that I like better than or .
Let me get specific, to avoid my own criticism.
I don't know if what the original commenter is doing is worth the effort, in terms of supporting Ukraine in this conflict. There's obviously a cost, in terms of dev time and false positives (showing the message to an unintended audience). I do think it is usually annoying, distracting, and unnecessarily polarizing to add politics to technical projects, so I would lean against doing this, even if I agree with the politics. Good technical work is hard enough on its own.
I'm not terribly offended by this action, and I wouldn't criticize it on its own; but I definitely think that "inaction supports the Russian invasion" is out of line here.
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#353This title seems designed to cause outrage. In their post, it's very clear why they couldn't allow the account to remain active: "The website of the organization says they use contributions to finance and train military personnel." Individuals should not be funding foreign militaries. It does not matter if the country was unjustly attacked or not.
How so? There is preciously little else you can do to feel like you may make a difference. Not that I believe donating here would have helped, but…
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How so? There is preciously little else you can do to feel like you may make a difference. Not that I believe donating here would have helped, but…
You don't have to donate directly to the military. You can donate to any relief organizations, independent journalists covering the war, etc. There's a lot on the periphery that need donations as well.
Yep! I'm not against people donating to other organizations that are helping out. In fact I hope that people do help out that way!
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#355I know emotions are running high in this thread but asking to educate myself. Ukraine is not a tiny nation, and Russia is huge. In that scenario how will a small assortment of weapons and software even help them? Do they even need weapons help? Also how can a charity buy that list and supply? Can an organization buy them, feels like that kind of a purchase should be restricted to countries only.
Russia can destroy and invade the country. But occupying a place as huge as Ukraine will be hard. Even with a small set of weapons and fighters defending the territory you can make the place way more difficult to control than it would be otherwise.
The USSR brought Ukraine under control after WW II.
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None of those are fundraising for weapons or military activity. They all seem to be videos or blogging fundraisers.
Oh, yeah! They definitely use that money only to pay for internet bills
This screenshot of Come Back Alive's[0] listing made it clear the fundraiser was for actual munitions.
Perhaps they should have obfuscated what their intentions were.
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Anybody can confirm whether ukraine.ua is legit? Their SSL certificate is issued to sni.cloudflaressl.com, which says nothing about whoever owns ukraine.ua. I'd say this one looks a bit more legit: https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...
Well how do you think they got Cloudflare to issue a cert on their behalf? By proving ownership of the domain...
Oh, hang on. Let me get the SSL certificate for “definitelyukrainegovernment.com”. Then you can donate money to the Ukraine gov on that site too.
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> Inaction is equal to support of the Russian invasion No, no it isn't, in this or in other situations. More than two choices _usually_ exist. Statements like this present a false dichotomy in an attempt to coerce people to support a preferred position or interpretation.
Yes, inaction always supports the status quo.
If you see a fight and you don't pick a side and decide to stay out of it, which side are you supporting?
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This method is super inaccurate, since visitors from many countries (including Ukraine) could use Russian as their preferred language. You might probably want to use IP geolocation instead.
Done: https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash-website/blob/ma...
Thank You, man!
I'm Ukrainian[0] and YOUR SUPPORT for Ukrainian people in such terrifying times WOULD BE NEVER FORGOTTEN by me & by all Ukrainians actually fighting just for freedom FOREVER!
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>Inaction is equal to support of the Russian invasion It certainly is not.
It is, because apathy is the only chance of the Russians getting away with it.
If you think posting on a message board on the internet will do anything, I'm sorry to tell you, it won't; it's just self serving moral gratification. Might as well send them some thoughts and prayers.