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On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

Patreon hosts tons of youtube channels focused only on weapons including purely military ones, how to make guns more effective (aka better at killing), how to tweak ammo to be more destructive. That's one fucked up schizophrenic stance, especially from US company in this specific conflict. Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements?

> Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements?

Interesting take to say the least.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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The flow of money seems to be one major battleground in this war. The biggest sanctions so far are disallowing to exchange funds with some russian banks. And the "nuclear option" is to disallow Russia from using the SWIFT system. What are the chances that this conflict will completely change how trading is done between countries? Could the USA, Europe, South Korea etc simply "nullify" all Russian holdings of their cu…

Kicking them out of SWIFT would hurt but China built an alternative system called CIPS. It’s nowhere near as big but it out there. But if China and Russia both used CIPS more then that would threaten the US dollar’s power as the global reserve currency.

For trade between China and Russia, why wouldn't they just do it via Yuan and Rubel? What does a new system like CIPS bring to the table here?

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Yeah, I see this kind of sentiment everywhere these days. Just because people disagree about things doesn’t mean it’s a subjective issue you can just wash your hands of. Sometimes you just have to dive in, figure out who’s right (or less wrong) and hope your assessment is correct. It sucks if you’re the kind of person who wants to never be wrong, but the adult world is messy, we often can’t afford that luxury.

There is this thing called 'False Balance' of which this is a specific example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

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Well, from their point of view, a military pact with the explicit goal of keeping them under control has first taken their land and is now threatening to get even closer to their border and encircle them. Just take a look at the Cuban missile crisis to see how the US reacted in a comparable situation and in that case, the distance from the missiles to the capital was a lot longer. For Russia, this is more like the mi…

What missiles? There are no missiles in Eastern Europe, only a symbolic number of foreign soldiers, and even that only after the first war in Ukraine.

"Mexico joining Warsaw Pact / China" and "NATO Missiles" are common Russian propaganda talking points. When someone says those words, you know they are compromised - either willingly working for the enemy of free world, or manipulated into doing it.

("Russian sphere of influence" is another sign of Soviet-thinking, as is talking about "Ukrainian Nazis".)

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"We don’t allow Patreon to be used for funding weapons or military activity." What is this then? https://www.patreon.com/search?q=guns

None of those are fundraising for weapons or military activity. They all seem to be videos or blogging fundraisers.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

Patreon hosts tons of youtube channels focused only on weapons including purely military ones, how to make guns more effective (aka better at killing), how to tweak ammo to be more destructive. That's one fucked up schizophrenic stance, especially from US company in this specific conflict. Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements?

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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> The Ukrainian's need help but this should be coming from government's, not private citizens through a private foreign company. If you set yourself up as a payment gateway people will use you as a payment gateway. And what private citizens do with their money is up to them.

That might be a norm that the world _should_ have but it’s not one that actually exists currently. We demand that payment gateways prevent fraud, prevent the sale of criminal or objectionable materials, prevent money laundering and prevent sending money to nations and individuals under sanction. Having a policy of not supporting weapons purchases is on that spectrum. Just claiming people can do what they want with th…

I'm perfectly capable of transferring funds to Ukranian bank accounts from where I'm sitting, my bank doesn't get a say in that.

If I were to try to send money to ISIS or some other known terrorist organization they would surely step in under AMT laws, but the Ukranian defense force is last I checked not on that list (Though I'm sure Putin would love that.)

https://www.dnb.nl/en/sector-information/supervision-laws-an...

So effectively Patreon is carrying Putin's water here.

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