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On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

#31

"It is a violation of our policies, and so we have removed the page." What a shit fucking response. Following a policy that you arbitrarily created yourself is not a reasonable justification for anything.

While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Direct link to Patreon's statement: https://blog.patreon.com/on-the-removal-of-come-back-alive

I’m so disappointed with their stance here. Russians are slaughtered these folks and they can’t get funds to defend themselves? Sickening.

While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

#34

"It is a violation of our policies, and so we have removed the page." What a shit fucking response. Following a policy that you arbitrarily created yourself is not a reasonable justification for anything.

While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

That's fine, and they're within their rights to have this policy in place, but it doesn't change the fact that they've completely fucked over the volunteers in their hour of need.

"It's a violation of our policies" doesn't magically clear their conscience. It's just another way of saying "because we can".

Companies do this all the time and I have no idea why we accept it.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Seems sensible. Private companies shouldn't be funding wars, particularly wars overseas from where they are based. The Ukrainian's need help but this should be coming from government's, not private citizens through a private foreign company. I feel like this shouldn't be controversial at all.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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It's self-defense. Or is that bad too?

We all know the final outcome of this. In the face of the overwhelming force Ukraine faces it seems to me any help we provide is just going to prolong the agony.

History of the world would be very different if people actually believed that.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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So essentially the problem is they're sticking to their "violence is bad" policy when in this specific situation violence is maybe not bad.

> when in this specific situation violence is maybe not bad. I'm pretty sure Russia would say the same thing if you ask them about their situation. That's the problem once you bring in subjectivity. That being said, tolerating the account for a few more days would've probably been a better play. EDIT: Just to be very clear, I'm not condoning Russian aggression in any way. My point is that not funding a war is an acce…

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Seems sensible. Private companies shouldn't be funding wars, particularly wars overseas from where they are based. The Ukrainian's need help but this should be coming from government's, not private citizens through a private foreign company. I feel like this shouldn't be controversial at all.

> The Ukrainian's need help but this should be coming from government's, not private citizens through a private foreign company.

If you set yourself up as a payment gateway people will use you as a payment gateway. And what private citizens do with their money is up to them.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m so disappointed with their stance here. Russians are slaughtered these folks and they can’t get funds to defend themselves? Sickening.

While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.

Freedom. What is being defended here is the right to have a website like this at all. The west has a long way to go to wake up to what's at stake here.
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