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> News outlets existed before the web, so they're not going to be threatened by breaking the ad-supported website model. If anything, the traditional newspapers will be saved by this, because if free online news disappears, people will start buying newspaper subscriptions again. We're also seeing very concerning trends in the readerships and profitability of print media (because of the Web, many think). So I don't th…
That's my point. Get rid of the free “news" sites and people will start paying for print media (and digital subscriptions) again.
Publishers Haven't Realized How Big a Deal GDPR Is
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#352The author claims that for one-time visitors you're not supposed to have any 3rd-party tracking code but uses Google Analytics which Ghostery counts as a tracking code. How's that going to work out for practically every site in the world?
The author is wrong. You just do what google does and ask for consent before providing access to the site. The user doesn’t need to log in to consent. Once consented, the site can set a cookie. Then that user becomes part of your “Full interaction users” bucket.
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How is CNN, Fox News and the sinclair group, working out for you guys? I trust state paid media in the EU, way more than any US news media. The reason why most EU countries have state paid media, is so that its non commercial, non partisan, and cant be bought. There are different principles in place, so government has no say, in what is broadcast/not broadcast. This also means that all political parties get the same…
> How is CNN, Fox News and the sinclair group, working out for you guys? Not well, and I'd add MSNBC to that list, however much I may be a dirty pinko who agrees with their editorial stance. NPR and PRI do what they can, but I really wish we had something like the BBC here, with non-corporate funding and a remit to report current events.
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and you really think that they will? you pretty sure will get the following response: ok -- hidden in their database -- (date_deleted = now()) fixed.
That's exactly what GDPR is for - I can be somewhat sure they'll delete it, and and if I'm wrong and they do what you described, I'll laugh hard as they bleed money when discovered.
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Why would you only have state sponsored media? You also have private media that you pay for (newspapers).
Newspapers are mostly paid for by advertising; having readers pay is mostly important because paid circulation is a signal of level of engagement that helps sell ads (though there are free papers that are entirely as supported, too.)
Anyhow, newspaper advertising isn't personally targeted by tracking readers, so it's a lot more palatable.
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> No, it will basically make a newsmedia site unprofitable. I think it is the EU that has not fully thought this through. Most of the news industry is already sickly, financially, and they mostly have no model other than advertising (with a very few exceptions). We have publicly funded broadcasters in most EU countries. The ad-supported news sites, on the other hand, are generally doing more harm than good. News outl…
We have publicly funded broadcasters in most EU countries. The ad-supported news sites, on the other hand, are generally doing more harm than good. Why am I not surprised that a European is saying that the government-backed "broadcaster" are all so good, and evil private American new sites are bad. this pretty much sums up the real agenda behind GDPR. It would be better to call the bluff of these EUrocrats and see wh…
You are not surprised because you have a gigantic filter in your head that turns everything into exactly what you already expect regardless of what it is. The second part of that sentence makes it quite clear what your mindset is.
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#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is CNN, Fox News and the sinclair group, working out for you guys? I trust state paid media in the EU, way more than any US news media. The reason why most EU countries have state paid media, is so that its non commercial, non partisan, and cant be bought. There are different principles in place, so government has no say, in what is broadcast/not broadcast. This also means that all political parties get the same…
New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe? Those are three publications that have sent shockwaves around the world with their privately-funded investigative journalism.
What I dislike about all news sites is that they are inconsequential. They throw sooooo many different news items at you that it really does not matter. Today's outrage will be quite forgotten two days later, or two weeks if it was something really bad. They should instead follow a few selected topics long-term and investigate what happens, and point readers to ways to affect a change. That means not reporting on each and every little thing as extensively any more but instead focus on a few things over a very long time. Just being fed thousands of news stories is McNews - you get short term satisfaction and a feeling that you stuffed something into your brain, but it feels hollow quickly because it's not very nutritious.
And don't get me started on all the Russia hype, one would think those guys in their in large parts poor 3rd world country have capabilities far beyond what the orders of magnitude richer West does not (I speak some Russian and was there a few times, also in Ukraine). That all the media jumped so willingly on this wagon is quite amazing. Note that I don't doubt they (Russian) did most of what is claimed, but when, for example, sums of money spent for the campaign are mentioned it's so little that it's obvious it could not have had a significant impact, at least not on the scale fitting the amount and the tone of the reporting. What is also missing is that they take the opportunity to talk about the many ways the US and the West has influenced internal politics of other countries. For controversial topics they usually try to give such views some room, but Russia seems so incredibly overblown and one-sided to me - so impossible, and it all looks like that recent video about Sinclair where they all say the exact same things and one can see not much effort went into that reporting. I don't know, it all feels very weird - and very wrong, like when you put on very strong glasses and the world looks weird.
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#358> we see that a majority of people who install an ad blocker don't actually do it to block ads (that's just an added bonus). They are actually doing it to block tracking. This line severely damages the credibility of the article. I found the article interesting up until I read it. I stopped reading once I read it because I couldn't trust anything else the author says. I highly doubt this statement is true. It may be…
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, the best thing to do if you don’t have a high percentage of EU users/customers is to simply block EU IPs. First it was the completely useless cookie notifications, now it’s GDPR, and nobody knows what the next thing will be - we only know that there will be a next thing (there always is), and that it too will be costly and burdensome to comply with. Unless you derive a significant percentage of your revenue…
> Honestly, the best thing to do if you don’t have a high percentage of EU users/customers is to simply block EU IPs. Could you please block my IP address as well: 192.117.111.61 If you feel that being responsible with my personal information and metadata is not worth the trouble, then I don't want to accidentally ever use whatever service you maintain. Thanks.
That doesn’t mean that sites that haven’t gone to the expensive lengths required under it are going to expose or abuse your data. If you are this big of a fan of the GDPR, I imagine that you’ll have to limit your Internet browsing only to sites run by EU-based companies that are large enough to afford scores of attorneys to advise them on how to comply.
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Newspapers are mostly paid for by advertising; having readers pay is mostly important because paid circulation is a signal of level of engagement that helps sell ads (though there are free papers that are entirely as supported, too.)
Perhaps in the past, or for local media, but the big newspapers (e.g NY Times) are primarily subscription funded now. Anyhow, newspaper advertising isn't personally targeted by tracking readers, so it's a lot more palatable.
That's a direct result of online advertising eating most of the advertising dollars, making the big papers less valuable advertising venues. Cutoff the things that make online advertising uniquely valuable, like the flow of personal data that enables far more focussed targeting, and that’ll shift back.
> Anyhow, newspaper advertising isn't personally targeted by tracking readers
No, instead it's targeted by every business decision of the paper ultimately being made against a backdrop of how it impacts the papers size and demographics of readership, which is how it sells itself as an advertising venue, which ends up with the major media all being crafted to narrowly appeal to the most valuable advertising audience.