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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by lighthawk »

exelius wrote: post #301
pcunite wrote: post #249

What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system. I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always…

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…

> Lync... "just works"

Those are two things that I would never say together. Lync is great if you are all on Windows within the same building or campus perhaps, but the video quality is horrible compared to Google Hangout or (consumer) Skype for cross country and international communication.

Also: Lync is now called "Skype for Business" and old Lync will be sunsetted per http://research.gigaom.com/2014/11/microsoft-announces-skype...

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by scholia »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #292

One advantage that Microsoft has is better cloud services and integrated apps. I am typing this on a MacBook, but I use Office 365, and all of the cloud services and apps run just fine also on my Android phone and iPad. Perversely, Microsoft supports Linux very well: I find the web versions of the Office 365 apps useful on my Linux laptops and I use Linux VPSs on Azure. The Surface Book blows me away. It looks like i…

Agree with your comments. Google is cloud-centric while Apple is Apple device-centric. Since I use Windows and Office, Mac OS X and Android, Microsoft does a better job of bridging devices, cloud and local storage.

> Google Now has no real competition right now.

Cortana is getting there. I'm looking forward to getting Cortana on my Nexus phone....

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by jn »

bhauer wrote: post #28

Surface Book promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfOe5mFbAE Worth watching.

Agreed. I'm extremely impressed by the quality of that video. Reminds me of the original Surface teaser[1] in that it's surprisingly ambitious and self-confident marketing, for Microsoft.

[1] https://youtu.be/dpzu3HM2CIo

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by ape4 »

6stringmerc wrote: post #266

If this doesn't convince musicians and DJs to more seriously consider the Microsoft Surface line of products, I don't know if it's possible. Personally I love the look of this, and in time, will have it earmarked as a replacement for my Lenovo X class ultrabook. I'm impressed.

Of course, the page has a photo of DJ using it. What about a developer ;)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by nogridbag »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #122
devit wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they prevent the Surface Book from toppling over, given that all internals must be in the screen part? It seems this would either double the system weight (due to counterweights) or require an extra stand in the back.

Well the keyboard is in the stand, part of the battery is probably in the stand, all of the ports are in the stand, the dedicated GPU is in the stand, plus the stand actually lays flat while the screen is mostly upright so in any normal position the stand could only be a fraction of the screen and still not cause it to topple right? I guess the combination of all of that and perhaps a little extra counterweight if ne…

From: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/devices/surface-book#...

Starting at 3.34 pounds (1,516 grams) including keyboard

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by curiousjorge »

scholia wrote: post #311
curiousjorge wrote: post #262

it looks like a copy of macbook, and I love microsoft for that, actually might buy this because of that fact. the tablet laptop thing is a must if you spend a lot of time in front of a computer. Unfortunately, sometimes you need a keyboard to answer emails and get stuff done.

What, a copy of a MacBook with a touch screen, pen operation, a serious GPU, and a detachable screen that works as a tablet running iPad-style apps? Still waiting for a MacBook that does any of that ;-)

I would never be caught with an Apple product built on the backs of millions of Chinese children and women in horrible and tyrannical working conditions.

If this turns out to be the same case I will also denounce and boycott it.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by slantyyz »

babuskov wrote: post #333
slantyyz wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it works with the Surface Pen, so for people who prefer pen and paper for note taking/drawing (like me), it would be useful in a meeting. I can't imagine mouse/trackpad are as good as a pen for free-form drawing diagrams, etc.

Now that you bring that up (and it finally loaded the page in my browser) I'm intrigued by the pen. If this could be a good replacement for Wacom tablets (which have double the price) it would be really interesting. Does anyone have experience with drawing on Surface with a Pen?

I can only speak to the Surface Pro which has the Wacom tech -- it's great but sucks at the edges.

The Surface Pen from the Surface Pro 3 forward does not have this issue.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by exelius »

lighthawk wrote: post #351
exelius wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…

> Lync... "just works" Those are two things that I would never say together. Lync is great if you are all on Windows within the same building or campus perhaps, but the video quality is horrible compared to Google Hangout or (consumer) Skype for cross country and international communication. Also: Lync is now called "Skype for Business" and old Lync will be sunsetted per http://research.gigaom.com/2014/11/microsoft-a…

Depends on how you build it out, but yeah I do agree that Lync/SfB is the weak point in the suite. But the Exchange/Outlook combo is the gold standard for corporate communication.
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