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Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by dotancohen »

jorl17 wrote: post #123
avaer wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the code I write, it's what I've noticed from people in 25 years of writing code in the corner. All of my friends who would die before they use AI 2 years ago now call themselves AI/agentic engineers because the money is there. Many of them don't understand a thing about AI or agents, but CC/Codex/Cursor can cover up for a lot. Consequently, if Claude Code/"coding agents" is a hot topic (which it is), people…

Totally this. People who don't see this seem to think we're in some sort of "bubble" or that we don't "ship proper code" or whatever else they believe in, but this change is happening. Maybe it'll be slower than I feel, but it will definitely happen. Of course I'm in a personal bubble, but I've got very clear signs that this trend is also happening outside of it. Here's an example from just yesterday. An acquaintance…

From what you describe, I probably would have charged them a tad more and taken a tad longer to deliver. However they would receive a production-ready application, that properly filters and sanitises and normalizes input, that is robust and resilient and reasonably extensible, and has a logical database format.

Tell me, does this vibe coded app running this business properly handle monetary addition, such as in invoicing or summarizing or deciding how big a check to write to the tax man? Are you sure? No floating point math hiding intermittent bugs?

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by raincole »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

> because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints

It's because they don't support OpenCode.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by m3nu »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

I have a feeling that Codex is also getting lower limits. Got this email just now. Basically they copy Claude's $100 tier.

> To help you go further with Codex, we’re introducing a new €114 Pro tier designed for longer, high-intensity sessions.

> At launch, this new tier includes a limited-time Codex usage boost, with up to 10x more Codex usage than Plus (typically 5x).

> As the Codex promotion on Plus winds down today, we’re rebalancing Plus usage to support more sessions across the week, rather than longer high-intensity sessions on a single day.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by jorl17 »

dotancohen wrote: post #341
jorl17 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally this. People who don't see this seem to think we're in some sort of "bubble" or that we don't "ship proper code" or whatever else they believe in, but this change is happening. Maybe it'll be slower than I feel, but it will definitely happen. Of course I'm in a personal bubble, but I've got very clear signs that this trend is also happening outside of it. Here's an example from just yesterday. An acquaintance…

From what you describe, I probably would have charged them a tad more and taken a tad longer to deliver. However they would receive a production-ready application, that properly filters and sanitises and normalizes input, that is robust and resilient and reasonably extensible, and has a logical database format. Tell me, does this vibe coded app running this business properly handle monetary addition, such as in invoi…

Too bad they couldn't reach you.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by dotancohen »

jorl17 wrote: post #344
dotancohen wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what you describe, I probably would have charged them a tad more and taken a tad longer to deliver. However they would receive a production-ready application, that properly filters and sanitises and normalizes input, that is robust and resilient and reasonably extensible, and has a logical database format. Tell me, does this vibe coded app running this business properly handle monetary addition, such as in invoi…

Too bad they couldn't reach you.

That's actually a great point. The real problem we have is putting businesses and clients together. And traditional advertising is certainly not the answer.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by solenoid0937 »

luddit3 wrote: post #230
solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

So Anthropic degraded their product. OAI updated their product to meet for exceeded Anthropic old product. This is normal behavior and not a cause for such a hyperbolic response.

There is good competition and bad competition.

Pricing your product unsustainably vs a competitor to gain market share is regarded as "bad competition" and has historically been seen as anticompetitive.

It does not benefit the consumer in the long run, because the goal is to use your increased funding or cash reserve to wipe your competition out of the market, decreasing competition in the long term.

Then, once your competition is gone, and you've entrenched yourself, you do a rug pull.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by dotancohen »

girvo wrote: post #338
dotancohen wrote: post #325

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What tasks do you use qwen3 for? Coding? Are you running it on CPU or GPU? What GPU does that Framework have? Thanks!

I have an Asus GX10 that I run Qwen3.5 122B A10B on, and I use it for coding through the Pi coding agent (and my own); I have to put more work in to ensure that the model verifies what it does, but if you do so its quite capable. It makes using my Claude Pro sub actually feasible: write a plan with it, pick it up with my local model and implement it, now I'm not running out of tokens haha. Is it worth it from a unit…

Thank you. I've been using ollama for a much more modest local inference system. I'll research some of the things you've mentioned.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by zee_builds »

jampekka wrote: post #143

Lots of scepticism here, but I think this may really take off. After 25 years of heavy CLI use, lately I've found myself using codex (in terminal) for terminal tasks I've previously done using CLI commands. If someone manages to make a robust GUI version of this for normies, people will lap it up. People don't want to juggle applications, we want computers to do what we want/need them to do.

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Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by solenoid0937 »

greenavocado wrote: post #233
solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

Not only that, but anthropic is now forcing users to give their biometric information to palantir They're doing a slow rollout

OAI already requires this. They both require identity verification in some cases
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