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Post by com2kid »

irrationalfab wrote: post #317
com2kid wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO no one is really pioneering. A lot more is possible than what is being done. I wrote a blog post about useful agents in a business setting ( https://www.generativestorytelling.ai/blog/posts/useful-corp... ) that highlights AI being proactive. I mean table stakes stuff, why isn't an agent going through all my slack channels and giving me a morning summary of what I should be paying attention to? Why aren't all th…

Agreed. It is ironic that in the AI race, the real differentiation may not come from how smart the model is, but from who builds the best application layer on top of it. And that application layer is built with the same kind of software these models are supposed to commoditize.

This feels like *nix.

Developers built themselves really good OSes for doing developer things. Actually using it to do things was secondary.

Want to run a web server? Awesome choice. Want to write networking code? Great. Setup a reliable DB with automated backups? Easy peasy.

Want a stable desktop environment? Well after almost 30 years we just about have one. Kind of. It isn't consistent and I need to have a post it note on my monitor with the command to restart plasma shell, but things kind of work.

Current AI tools are so damn focused on building developer experiences, everything else is secondary. I get it, developers know how to fix developer pain points, and it monitizes well.

But holy shit. Other things are possible. Someone please do them. Or hell give me a 20 or 30 million and I'll do it.

But just.... The obvious is sitting out there for anyone who has spent 10 minutes not being just a developer.

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Post by jsemrau »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

Codex is much worse than Anthropics model. My experience is that I burn 10x the tokens using Codex compared to Sonnet 4.6

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Post by einpoklum »

jampekka wrote: post #143

Lots of scepticism here, but I think this may really take off. After 25 years of heavy CLI use, lately I've found myself using codex (in terminal) for terminal tasks I've previously done using CLI commands. If someone manages to make a robust GUI version of this for normies, people will lap it up. People don't want to juggle applications, we want computers to do what we want/need them to do.

> tasks I've previously done using CLI commands.

Great, now you perform those tasks more slowly, using up a lot more computing power, with your activities and possibly data recorded by some remote party of questionable repute.

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Post by dotancohen »

organsnyder wrote: post #318
lxgr wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both can be true at the same time. I currently wouldn't waste my time with open models for almost all use cases, but they're crucial from a data privacy and competitive perspective, and I can't wait for them to catch up enough to be as useful as the current frontier models.

I've found qwen3 to be very usable on my local machine (a Framework Desktop with 128gb RAM). I doubt it could handle the complex tasks I throw at Claude Opus at work, but it's more than capable of doing a surprising number of tasks, with good performance.

What tasks do you use qwen3 for? Coding? Are you running it on CPU or GPU? What GPU does that Framework have?

Thanks!

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by organsnyder »

dotancohen wrote: post #325
organsnyder wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found qwen3 to be very usable on my local machine (a Framework Desktop with 128gb RAM). I doubt it could handle the complex tasks I throw at Claude Opus at work, but it's more than capable of doing a surprising number of tasks, with good performance.

What tasks do you use qwen3 for? Coding? Are you running it on CPU or GPU? What GPU does that Framework have? Thanks!

The Framework Desktop has a Ryzen 395 chip that is able to allocate memory to either the CPU or GPU. I've been able to allocate 100+gb to the GPU, so even big models can run there.

Most recently I used it to develop a script to help me manage email. The implementation included interacting with my provider over JMAP, taking various actions, and implementing an automated unsubscribe flow. It was greenfield, and quite trivial compared to the codebases I normally interact with, but it was definitely useful.

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Post by fg137 »

pilooch wrote: post #162
fg137 wrote: post #158

> ... work with more of the tools and apps you use everyday, generate images, remember your preferences ... Why is OpenAI obsessed with generating imgaes? Do they think "generate image" is a thing that a software engineer do on a daily basis? Even when I was doing heavy web development, I can count the number of times I needed to generate images, and usually for prototyping only.

Slides, publications and tech reports, very handy for figures !

Most software developers that I know spend only a fraction of time on that, if at all.

Generating diagrams is much more common than generating "images". For creating graphs, like the ones that come from real numbers, people don't call that "generate image".

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Post by HWR_14 »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #218

Codex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic. Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course. It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

And hopefully Anthropic has extra capacity then and I can return there.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by brikym »

woeirua wrote: post #194

Just reading the comments here it's amazing how many people seemingly don't know that Claude Desktop and Cowork basically already does all of this. Codex isn't pioneering these features, it's mostly just catching up.

Clicking UI elements can also be done in Github copilot for vscode, and cursor.

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Post by btown »

FlamingMoe wrote: post #205
woeirua wrote: post #194

Just reading the comments here it's amazing how many people seemingly don't know that Claude Desktop and Cowork basically already does all of this. Codex isn't pioneering these features, it's mostly just catching up.

Claude Cowork is unusably slow on my M1 MacBook Pro. I wonder if Codex is any better; a quick search indicates that it is also an electron app

At least when I tried it last, Claude Cowork tried to spin up an entire virtual machine to sandbox itself properly - and not only is that sandboxing slow to start up, it also makes it difficult to actually interact freely across your filesystem. (Perhaps a feature, not a bug.)

Claude Code, on the other hand, has no such issues, if you've done some setup to allow all commands by default (perhaps then setting "ask" for rm, etc.).

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