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Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by drnick1 »

stateofinquiry wrote: post #44
luxpir wrote: post #29

I really appreciate this write-up. Was forced to verify to get access to a new account. Like, an interstitial page that forced verification before even basic access. Brief context for that: was being granted a salesnav licence, but to my work address with no account attached to it. Plus I had an existing salesnav trial underway on main account and didn't want to give access to that work. So I reluctantly verified wit…

Thank you for sharing this. I understand, and even agree, that how this is being handled has some pretty creepy aspects. But one thing missing from the comments I see here and elsewhere is: How else should verification be handled? We have a real problem with AI/bots online these days, trust will be at a premium. How can we try to assure it? I can think of one way: Everyone must pay to be a member (there will still be…

> How else should verification be handled?

There should be no verification. The idea of a single platform where every worker is listed, identified, and connected to other people he/she knows IRL is scary. It shouldn't exist.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by ollybrinkman »

The deeper issue here is that centralized identity verification creates honeypots. You hand over real identity data to verify yourself, and now that data lives in LinkedIn's systems indefinitely. The alternative direction is zero-knowledge proofs for identity — prove you're a real person without revealing which person. Projects like World ID are going this direction. The irony is that for AI agents, none of this matters: they don't have identities to verify, which is actually a feature.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by Supernaut »

csmpltn wrote: post #289
buzer wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you agree to American terms and conditions, arbitrated by American courts. "Designated Countries. We use the term “Designated Countries” to refer to countries in the European Union (EU), European Economic Area (EEA), and Switzerland." "If you reside in the “Designated Countries”, you are entering into this Contract with LinkedIn Ireland Unlimited Company (“LinkedIn Ireland”) and LinkedIn Ireland will be the control…

Nobody cares. They keep a skeleton crew office in the EU for compliance purposes only. Whether they have an office in the EU or not is inconsequential. If they closed it tomorrow, the EU would literally have nothing to go after...

> They keep a skeleton crew office in the EU for compliance purposes only

According to LinkedIn, they have over 2,000 employees in Dublin alone.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by dave_sid »

Linkedin is the sleaziest thing I’ve seen on the internet since it was invented. The sight of it makes my skin crawl. The way they have desperately tried to onboard you via data that they seem to have that they shouldn’t. The way users even present themselves, posting updates that probably make them want to vomit themselves and shower in disgust even tho it’s not their fault, we need to find work. The bloody badge that you have to wear on your forehead to say you are available for work. The thought of the money they are raking in from recruiters and corporations. The way they try to be a little bit more like Facebook to make it look a little more ‘fun’. I hate it.

Well they made it. They conquered the recruitment scene and I can’t think of a company I’d wish had gone out of business sooner.

Am I wrong?

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by godelski »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

  > - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing.
The implication is that biometric data leaves the device. Is that even a requirement? Shouldn't that be processed on device, in memory, and only some hash + salt leave? Isn't this how passwords work?

I'm not a security expert so please correct me. Or if I'm on the right track please add more nuance because I'd like to know more and I'm sure others are interested

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by rawgabbit »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

This reads like their entire software stack. I don’t understand the role ElasticSearch plays; are people still using it for search?

Infrastructure: AWS and Google Cloud Platform

Database: MongoDB

ETL/ELT: Confluent and DBT

Data Warehouse and Reporting: Sigma Computing and Snowflake

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by Exoristos »

dave_sid wrote: post #344

Linkedin is the sleaziest thing I’ve seen on the internet since it was invented. The sight of it makes my skin crawl. The way they have desperately tried to onboard you via data that they seem to have that they shouldn’t. The way users even present themselves, posting updates that probably make them want to vomit themselves and shower in disgust even tho it’s not their fault, we need to find work. The bloody badge th…

I do find them the most loathsome of the social media platforms I visit. But here's another point -- recent investigations have shown they're not as good a resource for finding jobs anymore[0].

0. https://www.inc.com/joe-procopio/you-cant-find-a-job-because...

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by jcheng »

egorfine wrote: post #318
aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

A KYC provider is a company that doesn't start with neutral trust. It starts with a huge negative trust. Thus it is impossible to believe his words.

Can you say more? Why isn't it neutral or slightly positive? I would assume that a KYC provider would want to protect their reputation more than the average company. If I were choosing a KYC provider I would definitely want to choose the one that had not been subject to any privacy scandals, and there are no network effects or monopoly power to protect them.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by Exoristos »

bicepjai wrote: post #197
wolvoleo wrote: post #159

Wow that is insane. Persona is even linked to Peter Thiel. If LinkedIn asks me to verify then I'll just leave. I'd be very happy for it to fall over anyway so there is space for a new more ethical platform. Especially since Microsoft acquired it, all bets are off.

In the era of agents, just create your own website. Also it is insane that this is happening.

Yes. Then, you only have to convince Bing Copilot (et al.) to eventually list that website of yours.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by themafia »

Aurornis wrote: post #272
talkingtab wrote: post #111

Somehow the fundamentals of places like linkedin, gmail, google, facebook, etc have eluded people. 1. they are selling you as a target. 2. some people, governments, groups, whatever are willing to pay a lot of money to obtain information about you. 3. why would someone pay good money to target you unless they were going to profit from doing so. are they stupid? no. 4. where does that profit come from? If some one is…

> 1. they are selling you as a target. This is why people sign up for LinkedIn. They want to be targeted by companies for jobs. Or when they’re applying for a job, they want to be easily found by people at that company so they can see more information. If you don’t want those things, you don’t need a LinkedIn page. > Do the corporations that participate in this scheme provide mutual economic benefit? Do they contribu…

You assume that targeting is to find the best worker for the correct pay.

What if it's just to find the most desperate worker for the lowest pay possible?

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