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Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#111
Somehow the fundamentals of places like linkedin, gmail, google, facebook, etc have eluded people.

1. they are selling you as a target.

2. some people, governments, groups, whatever are willing to pay a lot of money to obtain information about you.

3. why would someone pay good money to target you unless they were going to profit from doing so. are they stupid? no.

4. where does that profit come from? If some one is willing to pay $100 to target you, how are they going to recoup that money?

5. From you.

There is simply no other way this can have worked for this long without this being true.

It is a long causal change, so it is fair to ask whether there is any empirical evidence. If this is true we would expect to see ...? Well how about prices going up? Well how about in general people are less able to afford housing, food, cars, etc.

I'm speculating here, but perhaps it is predictability. There is a common time warp fantasy about being able to go back and guess the future. You go back and bet on a sports game. If I can predict what you are going to do then I can place much more profitable bets.

Do the corporations that participate in this scheme provide mutual economic benefit? Do they contribute to the common wealth or are they parasitical?

No one likes to think they have parasites. But we all do these days.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#113
I think at this point we should all accept the fact that Information Tech = Spy Tech = Surveillance Tech. This is not about Linkedin or bad implementation by some 3rd party company. This is on purpose. Bad news is that countries started to make id verification mandatory for social media usage. That is also coordinated and for surveillance purposes.

Actually Steve Blank has a great talk on the roots of Silicon Valley. SV basically built upon military tech meeting private equity. That's why it's wildly different than say Berlin startup scene, and their products are global and free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTC_RxWN_xo

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#114
post #36

A good reminder of how things actually work, but the article could use some more balancing… > Let that sink in. You scanned your European passport for a European professional network, and your data went exclusively to North American companies. Not a single EU-based subprocessor in the chain. LinkedIn is an American product. The EU has had 20 years to create an equally successful and popular product, which it failed t…

> American companies don’t owe your European nationalist ambitions a dime. Use their products at your own discretion.

As a fairly vociferous eu person....I fully agree.

However, gdpr covers all eu residents, so if US companies don't want to obey eu law, that'sa fine, too.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#115
post #74
post #33

I hate LinkedIn but need it for a few things, mostly accessing certain clients and projects as a freelancer. Last October my ISP (Vodafone UK) assigned me a datacenter-classified IPv6 address with 80+ abuse reports on reputation databases, for bots, DDoS, crawlers. Before I realized this I started getting locked out, suspended, restricted from just about every web service I use, having to solve captchas for simple Go…

LinkedIn (like Teams) is a Microsoft product. And it shows. However, they have a very generous free trial for sales/recruitment. You could probably activate it and get real support.

Thanks for mentioning this. I have activated a one-month LinkedIn Premium free trial, hopefully as another layer of protection while I re-establish myself and fortify my profile.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#116
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That response reeks of astonishing arrogance. It doesn’t surprise me that nearly 50% of Americans voted for Donald Trump he perfectly embodies that mindset. Do you genuinely believe you are superior to the rest of the world? What you call “innovation” or a “better product” is often nothing more than the creation of dominant market positions through massive, capital deployment, followed by straightforward rent extract…

Maybe 30% of Americans voted for Donald Trump. This response reeks of ignorance and hubris. > Do you genuinely believe you are superior to the rest of the world? This assertion wasn't made, in any way, by the person you're replying to, and it sounds as though it's being asked in anger. This entire conversation has been about data privacy and stewardship. The OP has pointed out, correctly, that there's nothing that ha…

It's the law.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#117
post #29

I really appreciate this write-up. Was forced to verify to get access to a new account. Like, an interstitial page that forced verification before even basic access. Brief context for that: was being granted a salesnav licence, but to my work address with no account attached to it. Plus I had an existing salesnav trial underway on main account and didn't want to give access to that work. So I reluctantly verified wit…

> Why do these services have to suck so much. They can do what they please. Its due to the network effects. The tie-ins of tech are so strong, I'd wager that %99 of why they succeed has nothing to do with competency or making a product for the user, just that people are too immobile to jump ship for too many reasons. Its staggering how much stronger this is than what people give credit for. Its as if you registered a…

Someone needs to reimplement a "clean" version of its functionality: professional networking is too important to be left to the data hoarders/government surveillance cluster of organizations.

Besides, its UX has decayed to a "Facebook for the employed", where John Doe praises himself for mastering a mandatory training at work or taking Introduction to HTML at "Harvard" via Coursera.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#118
Seeing some of my colleagues verify through Persona on LinkedIn, and I can't quite figure out what they're getting out of it.

Every hiring process I've been through already requires proof of identity at some point. Background checks, I-9s, whatever it may be. So you're essentially handing your ID to a third party just to get a badge that doesn't skip any steps you'd have to do anyway.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

#119
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe 30% of Americans voted for Donald Trump. This response reeks of ignorance and hubris. > Do you genuinely believe you are superior to the rest of the world? This assertion wasn't made, in any way, by the person you're replying to, and it sounds as though it's being asked in anger. This entire conversation has been about data privacy and stewardship. The OP has pointed out, correctly, that there's nothing that ha…

Trump received 77,284,118 votes, representing 49.8% of the ballots cast for president. The 30% figure you mention refes to the share of the total voting-eligible population, including those who did not vote. A national poll conducted on February 16–18 found that 42.4% approve of Trump’s job performance, while 54.6% disapprove. Whether you accept it or not and whether you are a Democrat or Republican Trump now is the…

We can have a more detailed discussion around political alignments in America, but you've already agreed that your original statement was false. I mention the 30% figure specifically because you said "nearly 50% of Americans voted for donald trump".

American companies "complying" with is only required insofar as the EU authorities can do anything about it - and that's the same dynamic that exists across all geo boundaries on the internet, that's not specifically American - see China and its great firewall. If an American company is taking steps to be in compliance with GDPR, it's because there is benefit in doing so.

WRT GDPR, I'd ask a clarification before continuing - you said "operating within the EU" - what does that mean? If I deploy a website, from America, onto American servers, and you can reach them from within the EU, am I "operating within the EU"? I'm not trying to be coy by asking this, I actually don't know the extent to which I agree or disagree with you.

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