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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by abustamam »

potatolicious wrote: post #276
Dennip wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a super annoying quirk, lots of things don't work well if you're using workspace as a normal gmail account, and they don't quite warn you up front.

It's pretty much my #1 example of Google's propensity for shipping its org chart. Workspace accounts come with their own compliance requirements and edge cases that products need to handle, but rather than do that and provide a consistent user experience most product teams don't answer to the relevant PAs and so don't care, and Workspace accounts are a small enough minority of users that nobody has to care. I've ofte…

What alternative to metrics-driven product development would you suggest?

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Post by cardiffspaceman »

potatolicious wrote: post #276
Dennip wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a super annoying quirk, lots of things don't work well if you're using workspace as a normal gmail account, and they don't quite warn you up front.

It's pretty much my #1 example of Google's propensity for shipping its org chart. Workspace accounts come with their own compliance requirements and edge cases that products need to handle, but rather than do that and provide a consistent user experience most product teams don't answer to the relevant PAs and so don't care, and Workspace accounts are a small enough minority of users that nobody has to care. I've ofte…

It has been said, a typical MS Office user only uses x% of the features of the software, but every one of those millions of users uses a different x%

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by mijoharas »

rendx wrote: post #162
mijoharas wrote: post #151

Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

I use imapsync. Yes you can limit it to mails sent or received in a certain timespan. https://imapsync.lamiral.info/FAQ.d/FAQ.Archiving.txt

Hey, first off, thanks.

How do you go about that? The documentation says:

Q. Can imapsync be used to maintain and restore a local offline copy of a mailbox, eg for backup purposes, using Mbox or Maildir format, so that if the server fails, then the mailbox could be reinstated?

R1. No. Imapsync plays with IMAP servers only.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by mijoharas »

paffdragon wrote: post #215
mijoharas wrote: post #151

Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

On one machine I have offlineimap.py[1] (with mutt), on the other laptop Evolution[2] that archives my mail locally that I can also export and back up regularly. [1]: https://www.offlineimap.org/ [2]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/wikis/home

Ok, interesting. I checked the docs of offlineimap (thanks, I hadn't found that one when googling!) and it looks like I could use the `maxage` option for the incremental option (I think I want to create a folder for each week, back it up , and delete it after a while).

Do you have anything set up with evolution to handle things automatically?

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Post by mijoharas »

carlosjobim wrote: post #242
mijoharas wrote: post #151

Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

An e-mail client? At least that's how I do it, and it's been working well for decades.

My problem is I don't want to keep my entire email downloaded, but to periodically back things up.

Do you use your email client to periodically backup? (I would like it automated).

Do you use thunderbird or something else if so?

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Post by mijoharas »

krageon wrote: post #167
mijoharas wrote: post #151

Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

https://isync.sourceforge.io/mbsync.html It's the most performant solution that's also mature. I've used it for years to retrieve all of my email accounts (of which gmail is one) to a folder that I also backup.

Is there any way to only get a subset of the mail (i.e. only changes in last week).

I don't think I want all my email on my local machine, but I do think I want it all in the backups.

I couldn't see anything digging in.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by carlosjobim »

mijoharas wrote: post #346
carlosjobim wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An e-mail client? At least that's how I do it, and it's been working well for decades.

My problem is I don't want to keep my entire email downloaded, but to periodically back things up. Do you use your email client to periodically backup? (I would like it automated). Do you use thunderbird or something else if so?

E-Mails don't take up that much space for it to be any issue to me. Every five years or so I clean out some of the old ones and leave them only in backups.
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