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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by mustaphah »

lentil_soup wrote: post #76
mustaphah wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do aliases as well. Never enough. A battle-tested spammer would run s/+[^@]*// on the address before sending.

I have my own domain and just do @mydomain.com and redirect everything to the same inbox sorted in folders. Works pretty well, if any of those addresses gets into some spam list I just block it (hasn't happened yet, though)

Catch-all (*) setup is the best, until a spammer hits a gibberish localpart (on purpose) and your domain cheerfully accepts it.

Don't get me wrong, I use catch-all too (don't tell spammers).

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by bigwheels »

bound008 wrote: post #49

I'm not one to defend google, but it seems that they are only ending support for POP accounts, and retaining support for IMAP/SMTP. Seems like a reasonable deprecation for 2025, although they could have given more than a quarter to let people handle the change.

But why do they need to remove the functionality? It's been working fine for around 2 decades.

As a user of the feature, this is supremely annoying. They didn't even send me a warning message it will be discontinued.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by mustaphah »

zamadatix wrote: post #79
mustaphah wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do aliases as well. Never enough. A battle-tested spammer would run s/+[^@]*// on the address before sending.

Subaddressing != aliasing.

Aliasing !== masked email

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by londons_explore »

cj wrote: post #64
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know businesses that use Gmail and have all their staff make username.businessname@gmail.com addresses. Do not bet against how much small businesses don't want to pay for stuff, you will always lose.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead. The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

I always find the admin panel hugely restrictive. It's missing basic features like "just let me impersonate this user now".

The number of times our support staff have to walk someone through the process of doing something when the ability to impersonate a user would just let them do it far quicker.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by [deleted] »

lentil_soup wrote: post #76
mustaphah wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do aliases as well. Never enough. A battle-tested spammer would run s/+[^@]*// on the address before sending.

I have my own domain and just do @mydomain.com and redirect everything to the same inbox sorted in folders. Works pretty well, if any of those addresses gets into some spam list I just block it (hasn't happened yet, though)

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by jp191919 »

mustaphah wrote: post #58
jp191919 wrote: post #36

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I control spam by using email aliases. And it makes it easy to track exactly who leaked/sold my email address. But I don't use gmail, as I value my privacy.

I do aliases as well. Never enough. A battle-tested spammer would run s/+[^@]*// on the address before sending.

Using passmail aliases through protonmail has worked well for me, that way my domain isn't exposed. And everything forwards to one inbox.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by zamadatix »

mustaphah wrote: post #83
zamadatix wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subaddressing != aliasing.

Aliasing !== masked email

Agreed, there are also ways to employ aliases which won't prevent spam, but this still doesn't explain the relation to the subaddressing regex or why other ways or employing aliases (e.g. masking) are never enough.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by 486sx33 »

ahofmann wrote: post #75
sixhobbits wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use exactly this on my personal (free) and work (paid workspace) accounts. I got an official notification from Google that one member in my workspace (me) has used the feature in the last 30 days and will be affected. I didn't (yet) get a notification on my personal account. I also rely pretty heavily on this feature for a few very low traffic domains that I need but only have super set up on super clunky web mail,…

I switched from Google workspace to zoho.com Zoho is dirt cheap and has great tools to import all my mail, contacts and calendar data.

We’re Gsuite because it happened before I joined the org and it’s just too much of a pain to switch and get everyone re trained off of google apps

Zoho has a lot of nice features and seems less evil. The ticket tracking email system is a really nice feature

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by HumanOstrich »

pmontra wrote: post #57
sixhobbits wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use exactly this on my personal (free) and work (paid workspace) accounts. I got an official notification from Google that one member in my workspace (me) has used the feature in the last 30 days and will be affected. I didn't (yet) get a notification on my personal account. I also rely pretty heavily on this feature for a few very low traffic domains that I need but only have super set up on super clunky web mail,…

Maybe you can automatically forward mails from that domain to Gmail and find a way to label them. At worst you can write a mail client to do that by logging in, listing mails, mailing them to you and keeping track of what it already sent (sqlite?) They are very well known protocols with plenty of implementations, so probably a LLM can write the code with not much guidance.

Good luck getting consistent delivery to Gmail. Even Cloudflare's email forwarding keeps getting blocked / marked as spam.
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