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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #176

Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…

Are you saying that accessing a gmail exclusively via IMAP won't keep the account alive?

It doesn't seem to be the free Google account either. The fact it happened to a paid Google Workspace account is pretty concerning.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily. This is only relative to the experience when you're a free google account user. Compared to alternatives like Fastmail contacting support - and actually getting a successful resolution - is still very difficult. I finally switched our org after many years when Google announced yet another price increase (nominally for things I don't want or need)…

My anecdata counteracts your anecdata. Now how do we resolve this?

In the face of uncertainty I've found being wary of faceless megacorps to be a pretty useful stance

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #185

Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…

> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)

On one machine I have offlineimap.py[1] (with mutt), on the other laptop Evolution[2] that archives my mail locally that I can also export and back up regularly.

[1]: https://www.offlineimap.org/

[2]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/wikis/home

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #143

Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…

I‘m paying for workplace too (ex-free account), can you share more details on why it was frozen? Did they give an explanation or do you just assume it was because you use IMAP? Do you never login to your account on the web and just had it in your mail client?

no explanation. no response to emails so I have no idea what we did.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #176

Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…

Are you saying that accessing a gmail exclusively via IMAP won't keep the account alive?

no, we also frequently accessed the webmail jnterface. or at least I did.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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That sinking feeling... I have no idea if I'm using this. I set something up like 20 years ago when migrating from a self-hosted email to Gmail. But I think maybe at least one of my addresses might still be a POP mailbox.

They would surely send an e-mail with the specifics if you are affected, right?

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

#220
I already started to move most of my communications to ProtonMail. Looks like Google wants to force people to use the WebUI instead of email clients (no google ads on IMAP/POP).

What's annoying is that they are impacting paying customers as well, which is quite bad.

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