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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by data-ottawa »

mickgardner wrote: post #323

What an ugly UI update. I usually don't mind too much about the changes in MacOS UI and visuals, but opening up Finder leaves me shocked that this actually got the green light. Who in their right mind looked at this and thought: "yep that's the future, it looks fantastic!".

For Finder I discovered that changing the Toolbar to Icon Only significantly improved it. Then I set the sidebar icons to small in the Appearance system setting. That helped a lot.

Most of the new UI is designed almost exclusively for icon only toolbars.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by reaperducer »

_2d30 wrote: post #233

I decided to install this and the updated iOS today to see how I felt about it. My very initial impressions on MacOS: (1) I like the look of Safari better and the Mail app compared to the prior designs. They both look really nice to me and the Mail app especially looks like a huge improvement in terms of design unification with some of the features like summaries and unsubscribe options that looked bolted on in the p…

No more *poof* animation when you drag a control out of the toolbar during customization.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by llm_nerd »

Demiurge wrote: post #324
llm_nerd wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd jump ship because of the .0 release of Tahoe? Really? People get a little hysterical about things like this. You know you don't have to upgrade to it, right? They'll support Sequoia for years, and you could even be running Sonoma if you wanted. The response to this design is likely to be so overwhelmingly negative that we'll see a lot of subtle retreats in the point releases going forward, and when the macOS 7…

It's not really hysterical to want to jump a ship that feels like is turning into a clown cruise. I can use Windows, Linux, and OSX equally well for work, even if I deploy to AWS in the end. However, I love the osx aesthetic and MacBook hardware, since around Snow Leopard, which is when I switched from Linux to OSX. Since then, OSX osx gotten worse with every release, and Tahoe is a very low, new low. At some point,…

Sequoia is absolutely, undeniably better than Sonoma. Sonoma is undeniably better than Ventura. And so on. This notion that it's all downhill is just noisy nonsense as people wave their hands and have a tantrum that they don't like some change. And to be clear, every single macOS release yields this. It's incredibly boring.

Like, it's fun to whine about the imperfection of macOS...versus Windows or Linux? LOL, come on. And just like you and probably everyone else on here, I use macOS, Windows and Linux every single day. Pretending that a couple of aesthetic changes are the big "straw that broke the camel's back" is just so lame.

It is hysterical. It's noisy nonsense. This "fine this is it" tantrum that people pull is such a tired gimmick.

And personally I think the aesthetics of macOS/iOS/iPadOS 26 are terrible. They're inevitably going to start easing down the heinous translucency and will claw back on the stupid round corners. Aside from that the system has a lot of fundamental improvements that will benefit everyone.

But no, no one on Sequoia is going to suddenly be without apps or extensions. When apps start abandoning versions it's usually a couple of versions out.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by MobileVet »

The part that I am so tired of is the ‘we are the best at this and this is amazing’ pitch that comes with every release. Never mind that this release’s design ‘language’ DIRECTLY conflicts with things they used to say ‘never do that’.

So what changed exactly? Change is understandable but this is a full 180. - floating anything was verboten - accessibility was paramount - clarity was prioritized

How did this release come about??

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by uptown »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

How hard is it to downgrade?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by TheJuli »

hexvalid wrote: post #322

Looks horrible on non-hdpi monitors

Eh, it has always looked horrible. Non fractional scaling is just too much to ask at this point...but hey look at this tiny toggle element doing this cool liquidy effect wohoo

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rvrb »

awesome_dude wrote: post #238
rvrb wrote: post #227

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Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become. Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

Are you using Fedora on the Mac (via Asahi)? Or are you using Fedora on an Intel/AMD laptop?

If it supported M4 I would be using it on my MacBook, but I am using a ThinkPad P14s gen 6 (AMD) right now. Some issues with suspend that I worked around with a kernel parameter but other than that, everything else worked out of the box

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by brandall10 »

gedy wrote: post #296
basisword wrote: post #266

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The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

Shocking as it is, search based UIs are really despised by some people (me). I greatly prefer visual/spatial browsing

It's not the mode so much as the comparative efficiency. In a handful of keystrokes you can launch a commonly used app in under a second. Any type of visual browsing mode is going to take an order of magnitude more time/effort.

For people who never work with things like terminals, sure. For fellow devs, it's an unusual choice unless they routinely cycle through irregularly used apps w/ hard to remember names.

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