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Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by moe »

philwelch wrote: post #316
ori_b wrote: post #219

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I reboot because I want a clean slate. Otherwise, I put the machine to sleep.

Interesting. When I want to quit applications, I quit applications. When I'm done running the machine for awhile, I sleep it. I only ever reboot because of software update anymore.

Well, to add insult to injury, resume plain out doesn't work as soon as you leave the beaten path ever so slightly.

I.e. I really don't need iTerm to resume because it can't restore my sessions anyway. And even most regular apps fail to resume for me because almost all of my files are on a network share that OSX fails to auto-mount.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by tensor »

The tie-ins to the closed Apple ecosystem are really startling. Take someone like myself. I have no iOS devices and have friends on various operating systems and services. Perhaps I'm a minority, but this is how it breaks down for me.

iCloud - not useful, no iOS devices.

Messages - not useful, too Apple centric, I already use Adium to interface with several non-apple services.

Reminders - not useful, wont' sync to my phone. I already just use CalDAV via iCal for this.

Notes - not useful, wont' sync anywhere, I already use the much better Evernote.

Notification Center - maybe, but it only works with App Store apps of which I have few. I used to use Growl from the command line to notify me when long running computational jobs were completed, but if it's locked to App Store apps I suppose I won't be able to use it for that.

Share Sheets - maybe, but I already use Sparrow instead of Mail and Chrome instead of Safari. I use another photo hosting site that isn't Flickr and don't use Twitter.

Twitter - don't use it.

Game Center - not at all a compelling feature for me.

AirPlay Mirroring - don't have an Apple TV and prefer more open platforms for this.

Gatekeeper - this is a good idea in principle, remains to be seen if it gets in the way.

The exclusive partnering and increasingly closed Apple ecosystem is really showing. Maybe I'm a very small minority, but this direction is not in the slightest bit thrilling to me. Where are all the options to plug your own services into the system?

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by mung »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #265
moe wrote: post #150

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Last time they took inspiration from iOS we ended up with "Launchpad", an inverted scroll-wheel, and the god-awful "restart all applications after reboot"-nuisance that cannot be fully disabled. Thanks but no thanks.

I bought my first mac this fall. I can honestly say I love Launchpad and the inverted scroll wheel. Don't be afraid of a lil change.

It's not change but in the case of Launchpad poor implementation. No control over what gets added without a 3rd party utility, no admin interface for serious arranging and even if you do wipe the database and manually add icons, it still winds up reseting once you install an application after the fact. Try installing Adobe CS to see how badly messed up it can get. I wonder if this is a glimpse of what it's like to not have SJ being around to say "this is shit!" and make them do it better.

On inverted scroll, it's great until you have to use someone else's mac or a PC then it just gets painful.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by wtallis »

dlikhten wrote: post #306
toni wrote: post #120

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It is unfortunate that AppleTV's video output (out-of-the-box) still does not support true 1080p resolutions and everything is upscaled from 720p.

This may be a bandwidth issue. I remember my friend having major issues streaming 1080 to his tv box over wifi. He had to get an N router just to support it. This may be a compromise.

Blu-Ray tops out at 48Mbit, and ATSC is less than half that. Your friend was most likely having signal quality issues, not bandwidth issues.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by gurkendoktor »

jsz0 wrote: post #322
gurkendoktor wrote: post #237

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> 1) you think you are different than a consumer how? For me the distinction is this. If a feature is being taken from a consumer (e.g., me as a consumer), I say bummer and find a new hobby. No Apple remote and Front Row anymore? Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. If I use a feature in a professional workflow and it disappears, then I want at the very least a big fat warning before upgrading, but it'd be better if…

The current trend with Apple is to radically drop features Such as?

So you think OS X server and iSync that I just mentioned were peanuts? Keychain syncing? Xcode is a mess too, Xcode3 is barely supported on 10.7 and breaks when you upgrade your device, and Xcode4 is not backwards compatible with anything.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by kalleboo »

pwelch wrote: post #236
ori_b wrote: post #65

" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?

No your not. I want my stuff to sync without issues like my notes, contacts, mail but I don't want my laptop/desktop to feel like my phone. Example: Launch pad, is anyone really using this?

I never use Launchpad, but I'm glad it's there since I've always had trouble explaining the Applications folder vs the Dock to people, and Launchpad solves that very nicely for non-technical people (especially ones with iPhones/iPads).

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by jsz0 »

I really like where Apple is heading with OSX. With iCloud and a common set of features/services iOS and OSX are developing a very symbiotic relationship. It kind of confuses me to see people saying Apple is trying to turn OSX into iOS. It's really the exact opposite from my perspective. They are evolving OSX to be part of a future where SmartPhones/tablets are a major part of how people use technology. There has to be some degree of feature/usability parity for these devices to co-exist happily. Why should my $500 iPad have AirPlay and not my $1500 Mac? If I like using the Reminders app on my iPhone why shouldn't I have it on my Mac? I've yet to see any good argument against these features that doesn't rely pretty heavily on nostalgia or fear of change.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by SODaniel »

ori_b wrote: post #65

" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?

You might want to move away from Mac's then. For some reason that's where it's all heading. By the end of 2012 you will be squeezing and swyping all over your 27" screen.
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