The day Windows died • Hacker News Board

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by vkou » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:18 AM UTC

chillfox wrote: post #140

wongarsu wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most reliable way to get things to stick is by using Group Policies. Because if there's one group Microsoft is afraid of messing with, it's their Enterprise customers. Of course that requires getting Windows Pro or better, but that's becoming a must anyways, Windows Home just keeps getting worse with every update. Luckily the upgrade is only about $20 (using the unofficial key reseller of your choice).

Or you know, you could stop fighting with your computer/OS/vendor and pick a different OS. No OS brings enough of a difference these days that it’s worth suffering an adversarial relationship with.

Then you'll get to enjoy all sorts of other fights with your OS.

(I, will, of course, be put in my place by everyone who is ready to chime in that if I just change , then .

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by 1attice » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:18 AM UTC

chillfox wrote: post #129

nuker wrote: post #112

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> stayed on 10 and am avoiding upgrading It still tries to move you to 11, big You Have Free Upgrade window on startup. I declined maybe 4 times already. It still shows. Im totally a MacOS fan, i use Linux daily but only for my servers. Windows in on my gaming PC.

It’s hoping to catch you off guard one day so you miss click or wear you down.

This happened to me ;_;

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by stofzuiger » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:20 AM UTC

goosedragons wrote: post #268

herpderperator wrote: post #257

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Any Intel/AMD mobile processor is going to get hot doing simple things - new or old. It has always been this way. M1/M2 is the way to go if you want cool operation on virtually all workloads.

Oh baloney. Doing the same thing on my Ryzen 5650U won't crack 50 C, it regularly idles around 30-40 C whereas the MBP I don't think I ever saw below 45. And my prior Skylake system was way cooler too. Usually was around 70 C gaming. The 2018 15" MBP chassis is particularly terrible for the chips they put in there. The i9 infamously would perform worse than the i7 in benchmarks for long duration tasks.

What do you mean? There was no M1 system in 2018. Only the Intel machine with cooling problems.

My MBP M1 Pro is usually compiling big chunks of software. (Granted, not as intense as rendering video but definitely more challenging than most games) three to four times as fast as my desktop i9, and after almost 2 years, I have yet to see it reach 40°C. It’s got some hefty fans that simply never have turned on yet, as far as I’m aware.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by deafpolygon » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:21 AM UTC

dysoco wrote: post #320

FridayoLeary wrote: post #224

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The issue with Linux for me is how crude and unpolished the desktop environment is compared to windows and Mac. For the average user the desktop is everything and Linux lag way behind on that. Why are there basically only 2 choices on Linux and both have the same boring font?

Have you used Linux recently? Windows 11 and Windows 10 with the last updates as well are just awful in terms of UI; the UX works more or less alright, but many of the default applications, and specially the settings, control panel, etc. are just an inconsistent mess, awful flat UI without any kind of colors, etc. Mac is much nicer, nicer fonts, colors, overall look although personally I can't stand the UX too much (…

> the UX works more or less alright, but many of the default applications, and specially the settings, control panel, etc. are just an inconsistent mess, awful flat UI without any kind of colors, etc.

The whole GTK2/3, now 4? and KDE, Plasma, Kirigami, what have you nowadays, isn't an inconsistent mess? I was using Linux (fedora 37) recently and it was not a consistent experience, either.

If anything, W11 is more consistent across all applications even if the settings/control panel have a weird Jekyll/Hyde personality to it at times.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by cat_plus_plus » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:22 AM UTC

So you are essentially acting like your father, delaying introducing contemporary technology into your child's world? I am not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, but even back in the days there was (low res) pornography and predators on Internet, and on TikTok such blatant things are well filtered out and harm is more subtle. Bottom line, you got a career out of your exposure to potentially dangerous online world back in the day, there is risk but there is also an opportunity.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by graevy » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:22 AM UTC

The open-source community loves recommending ubuntu to people who don't know how to access a boot menu; the dissemination of debloating tools like tronscript or bloatynosy is the best practical way to combat these antifeatures.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by snvzz » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:24 AM UTC

qbasic_forever wrote: post #65

Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.

Doubtful.

Setting it up for him means passing up on an opportunity for him to learn by doing it himself. Automatic upgrades means passing up on another such opportunity.

Not a good way to start.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by AdeptusAquinas » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:26 AM UTC

Tbf you can uninstall all these apps (rage about windows being preinstalled with bloatware, but thats been a thing forever), and if you feel like you are technical enough to use linux, then you are absolutely technical enough to open regedit, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager, and disable all that 'user experience' stuff.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by eastbound » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:28 AM UTC

erickhill wrote: post #322

KerrAvon wrote: post #312

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The M1 MacBook Pro is the best Mac made since the turn of the century.

Hear hear. I have a Macbook Pro M1 Max. I upgraded from a 2015 MBP, which had previously been one of my all-time favorite Apple laptops (and I've had cough a lot). The MBP M1 Max - to my surprise - destroyed the 2015 on virtually every level. This is my current "from my cold dead hands" machine.

Pricepoint: $2,499.00 for 16 inch MBP, M2, 12-Core CPU, 19-Core GPU, 16GB Unified Memory, 512GB SSD Storage (which is very small storage, and 1Tb starts at $2699).

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by eviks » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 5:29 AM UTC

That's way too dramatic for small annoyances you (as an experienced PC dad) could avoid

I mean, you never could trust, and earlier the security was much worse, yet for some rose-tinted-glasses reason Windows was alive