Its funny, adware used to be such a big problem in the windows ecosystem, and then MS was like - what if we do this to ourselves instead.
The day Windows died
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically whatever runs Steam, if you want to play games.
Sure, but Steam doesn't run natively, and is very heavy on battery and GPU. So it isn't good for playing on a laptop when mobile; signficantly worse to native game binary running on a tablet or laptop.
> Sure, but Steam doesn't run natively, and is very heavy on battery and GPU. So it isn't good for playing on a laptop when mobile
I'm assuming this statement is referring to the large amount of software that is Windows only on Steam and runs in a compatibility layer on Linux, rather than Steam itself.
This really isn't that big a deal vs "native" for Steam on Linux and it's getting even less so with time - the Steam Deck mobile console and other x86 handhelds use the exact same Proton tech to run Windows games under Linux on a pretty small ~40Wh battery.
Power consumption of the Proton compatibility layer isn't really any better or worse than running native in my experience - its a wash.
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#133"windows is dead because it has ads in the start menu (that you can turn off), it ships with unwanted apps and doesn't ship with properly free games"
Profound, truly.
This is of course completely forgetting the era when every prebuilt would ship with crapware, completely omitting the fact that via giveaways on places like GoG and EGS, children have access to more free games in one year than I was bought in my entire childhood and completely forgetting that there are more mature, free options to master a craft on your computer than ever before if you are so inclined to do so (blender, godot, unreal engine, unity, krita, visual studio, etc..) (not to mention a rich ecosystem of help for all of these, and normalized services like the internet generally that is cheap enough to be ubiquitous).
This guy evidently didn't ever know what it was like to grow up as a kid with computers, to be stuck with stock windows XP and a handful of games you had played to absolute death, with no means and parents who wouldn't buy any tool or app on the internet as it was inconceivable to do so, dicking around with MS Paint as the image editor of last resort, with big dreams and no prospects. I became merely familiar with computers as I was left alone with them for long enough to break several of them out of boredom. Meanwhile, I learned crafts (coding, 3D modelling, etc.) through my schooling, particularly university and an internship.
Windows basically hasn't changed, is the reality. We killed computing as a race through Android and IOS. Kids today aren't even spending time with computers anymore. That's the problem. The stab at TikTok here hides an underlying unspoken critique that such apps have sucked out attentions so completely that people aren't thinking about what they run on anymore. This article completely misses the point.
Re: The day Windows died
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically whatever runs Steam, if you want to play games.
Sure, but Steam doesn't run natively, and is very heavy on battery and GPU. So it isn't good for playing on a laptop when mobile; signficantly worse to native game binary running on a tablet or laptop.
Steam runs natively. It is a linux application (to my knowledge, and it wraps "a webview", so there might be some nuance here. But native enough for this distinction).
Steam uses a compatibility layer called Proton to run Windows games under Linux. Running the games that way is not significantly worse. It can get the same or even better performance (but sure, sometimes worse) and will affect battery life pretty much exactly as if running the game via Windows on the Laptop.
Proton is based on Wine, and Wine is not an emulator. Translating the calls does not make them heavier.
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#135> Next: Casual games. Minesweeper, Solitaire… who didn't waste time with those in the 1990s? Now they are cluttered with in-app purchase offerings.
Wat? What are the purchases in Minesweeper and Solitaire? (My old laptop can't get Win11, thankfully I guess). Anyone could screenshot?
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
It worked perfectly fine in windows 7. And then it got screwed up in windows 10.
Yup, even on a slow machine with a mechanical drive you could blind type the first 3 letters of a program name and slam the enter key. The search filtering was so quick it would have completed the operation in time for your enter key-press to be registered. Try the same thing on 10 or 11 and you're probably going to end up with a new edge window running a Bing search.
Heck, it's bad even on reasonably fast machines like my surface pro. I've recently found that if I "blind type" a search query at my normal (very fast) input speed, it actually enters the keypresses _before_ loading fully, blinks the correct app up for about 1 frame, then resets the input field to nothing!
Argh.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try installing Linux + steam on it. I think you'll find it's a better environment for gaming.
This is irrelevant for multiplayer gaming, where the anti-cheat software only runs on Windows because it needs to establish a security baseline for all players.
Easy anti cheat works in linux now.
Most games now just work
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#138Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.
And they won’t be able to complete their school work
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#139Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…
as a general windows fan, I also hate windows 11. I upgraded my 11 to windows 10, and if windows 12 doesn't resolve this horrible apple/android copy cat nonsense, I will regrettably move to Linux full time. I run kde on hardware for my work computer as the only os on the device for over 2 years now. I still use windows 10 at home for personal computing. kde based Debian is good, better than osx and windows 11 for sur…
Which part is Apple copycat? Seems like they're wrecking it plenty by themselves without needing to take cues from macOS.
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#140> Some people recommended tools to me which can be used to switch most of those things off. But honestly: How do you trust a system (or its manufacturer) if you can't even know if those settings, which you deliberately chose, persist? No doubt you've all noticed how your carefully crafted config gets trashed by routine window's updates %#%$$#%#! If you use windows, you're pushing against a company that 1) you've give…
The most reliable way to get things to stick is by using Group Policies. Because if there's one group Microsoft is afraid of messing with, it's their Enterprise customers. Of course that requires getting Windows Pro or better, but that's becoming a must anyways, Windows Home just keeps getting worse with every update. Luckily the upgrade is only about $20 (using the unofficial key reseller of your choice).
Or you know, you could stop fighting with your computer/OS/vendor and pick a different OS.
No OS brings enough of a difference these days that it’s worth suffering an adversarial relationship with.