I just stick with Windows 7.
I liked Windows 7 a lot too, only switched to 10 when it got to end-of-life.
I've used 11. 7 is the last good version.
The day Windows died
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Re: The day Windows died
#112Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…
This is unfortunately the new state of Windows, and why I also may be switching away after being a dedicated user since Windows 3.1 I doubt I'll go to Mac, I'm just not a fan, so looking at different linux options, even though I barely do any coding anymore. Windows used to have bloatware and shareware, but I never felt it was in your face like it is now. But it really is the volume of advertising and crap that has g…
> stayed on 10 and am avoiding upgrading
It still tries to move you to 11, big You Have Free Upgrade window on startup. I declined maybe 4 times already. It still shows.
Im totally a MacOS fan, i use Linux daily but only for my servers. Windows in on my gaming PC.
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#113Is there a windows edition that shuts this stuff off, like some enterprise sku?
If your home improvement store reintroduced lead and asbestos into the products they sell today, and then created a new premium product line without them, would you pony up for the latter, or would you take your business elsewhere?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I built a gaming PC recently, so also new to Windows (normally Linux main). I was very surprised to see advertising in the operating system, for an operating system that people pay at least $190 CAD for. This issue is made worse by every hardware vendor needing to install their own bulky applications with their own popups. It's extremely noisy. My main take is that Microsoft has lost all pride in Windows and they're…
They really advertise to you inside the operating system? I've been a Linux user for 20 years so I don't know.
Yeah they do. It started with Windows 10. It’s one of the reasons I moved over to Linux for gaming last year (I have been using Linux for work for years)
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#115Something smells off about this. The author pulled an old laptop from under their desk and was able to install windows 11? Not likely in my experience. How did the author even get a windows 11 install since they claim they have not used windows since version 8. Will any win8 laptop even support an upgrade to 11? I doubt it. Why not get linux running on the old laptop. Mint likely installs just fine. I'm not saying wi…
I agree. It smelled funny to me, too.
Marketing from who? This really isn't apple's style and doesn't much benefit them, and I can't think of any other company that would be motivated.
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#116> How do you trust a system (or its manufacturer) if you can't even know if those settings, which you deliberately chose, persist?
you'll want the kid to be able to reinstall from scratch as a list ditch "fix" for whatever they "broke" and learning to spot deceptively hidden/chosen defaults is a requisite for effectively using windows - the os installer is obligated to give you a crash course
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#117Microsoft has basically become a hostile software company. All of this aggressive and constant insistence to use their stuff just so that some line on some VP’s graph goes up.
This is what we get when incentives are misaligned.
Re: The day Windows died
#118Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…
as a general windows fan, I also hate windows 11. I upgraded my 11 to windows 10, and if windows 12 doesn't resolve this horrible apple/android copy cat nonsense, I will regrettably move to Linux full time. I run kde on hardware for my work computer as the only os on the device for over 2 years now. I still use windows 10 at home for personal computing. kde based Debian is good, better than osx and windows 11 for sure, but I just can't swallow it as my only os for entertainment, it just isn't there yet.
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#119> Some people recommended tools to me which can be used to switch most of those things off. But honestly: How do you trust a system (or its manufacturer) if you can't even know if those settings, which you deliberately chose, persist? No doubt you've all noticed how your carefully crafted config gets trashed by routine window's updates %#%$$#%#! If you use windows, you're pushing against a company that 1) you've give…
The most reliable way to get things to stick is by using Group Policies. Because if there's one group Microsoft is afraid of messing with, it's their Enterprise customers. Of course that requires getting Windows Pro or better, but that's becoming a must anyways, Windows Home just keeps getting worse with every update. Luckily the upgrade is only about $20 (using the unofficial key reseller of your choice).
Not everyone wants to buy an OS upgrade for their work to not get removed.
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#120"I have never looked back since. I stopped buying new laptops every few months and got myself a new MacBook every few years instead. I stopped counting crashes and dealing with anti-virus" This is a quote around them using Win 7/8. There's definitely some hyperbole going on here, because I and many others found Windows 7 to be a relatively stable environment and I say this as a prolific user of Photoshop, visual stud…
The idea that he's buying new laptops every few months rather discredits this article.
I agree that statement in the article was completely ridiculous.
The overarching point though of the over-commercialization of Windows stands as completely legitimate. I've used Windows (and modems) a decade longer than the the OP, have been a fairly strong supporter of Windows but I've about had enough myself.
Microsoft isn't alone in this - Google's constant whining about not using Chrome on their web properties is just as pathetic.
Microsoft, you're worth $2.15 trillion. You are violating your fiduciary duty to shareholders by prioritizing extremely short-term revenue gains over long term viability of the platform. You are jeopardizing that long term viability of the platform by annoying and spying on your user base so you can make pennies from them. It is a veritable "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs" situation.