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Re: Grok Bot

#331

We need more and stronger open source/weight models considering how deeply and intimately these bots are going to be integrated in our lives. I hope that Dario Amodei fails in his quest to regulate open models out of existence to line his pocket under the guise of safety. Amodei/anthropic will end up being the most harmful force in the next few decades where progress in AI is concerned. I hope people realize sooner t…

Good news is there's Chinese companies doing it outside of US jurisdiction

Re: Grok Bot

#332

I feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted

Yeah I'm a bit baffled too... the world is so, so much worse now because of AI. More scams/spam, lower quality software everywhere, development is no longer fun, many interactions with coworkers are just "have my people talk to your people" behind the scenes, except it's "have my LLM read the huge document your LLM generated". Every business is trying to cut corners by using AI, so customer service sucks, products su…

That's not AI it's just capitalism

Re: Grok Bot

#333
post #279

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I rawdog Claude Code with --dangerously-skip-permissions and the only fucky wucky it's made is invoking git checkout wrong and losing some code in the working tree. It has done this thrice, the first two times I caught it in the act and smashed esc to rewind the conversation + code, and the third time I wasn't paying attention it just restored it from context. So I would worry about it making small mistakes, that I w…

Yeah I disallow git write in my agents.md for exactly this reason. Agents have fucked up the working tree and lost code too many times for me. I have this in agents.md now: # Git operations policy Git is read-only for coding agents unless running in a cloud environment where git writes are explicitly allowed. - Never run git commands that write state, change history, change the index/staging area, change branches, or…

This is one compaction away from being truncated to "allowed examples: `git add`...".

System prompts aren't safeguards.

A step in the right direction is auto-review, available in claude-code, codex, and Cursor products. This is not foolproof either.

This is why remote calls should be gated through an MCP or other API gateway. The MCP can restrict calls even when the provider lacks scoped privileges for their integration keys.

Re: Grok Bot

#334

This is obviously the future, where this will all end up. But just like when I saw the demos for Google's "AI build the interface dynamically", I wonder how much of the demo actually translates to real usage. One thing that this highlights for me even more than before is that having accounts for my bots is what I really want. I want SaaS providers to catch up to bot use. They need their own accounts on a lot of these…

We are still early on and already see things like this being created etc. The big difference probably will be the compute use, the big players will introduce A2A stuff sooner than later, than you don't need to login into any services per webui. I think we will also see more streamlined things, like verified actions / signed actions, etc.

I think that is true in fast moving and AI adjacent business, but less true in established players. Like everything.

The main issue are businesses where the per-seat model is their entire business model. There is a balance between taking advantage of the opportunity of the explosion of bots by offering a lower price option to attract new users and cannibalizing your existing users who might swap to the lower price option seeing it as good enough.

On my side it is less the streamlining (AI can mostly do anything on my computer already, it has little trouble with CLI or computer use) and more to do with cost. If cost wasn't an issue, I'd just pay the full price for a full seat.

Re: Grok Bot

#335
post #23

I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to…

I'm really curious to hear how this shirt project turns out. Do you have a blog going on anywhere?

Re: Grok Bot

#336

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Those businesses are welcome to publish their prices if they want to avoid that

At some places I've worked, we still get a quote anyway. This may come as a shock to the purchasing team, maybe not, but it's always come back with the price on the website. Just the SOP for us I guess

You have to show the bean counters the quotes/bids you received and justify why one was used over the other when the cheapest option wasn't used. You can't put "price on the website" into the bean counter's files.

Re: Grok Bot

#337

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At some places I've worked, we still get a quote anyway. This may come as a shock to the purchasing team, maybe not, but it's always come back with the price on the website. Just the SOP for us I guess

You have to show the bean counters the quotes/bids you received and justify why one was used over the other when the cheapest option wasn't used. You can't put "price on the website" into the bean counter's files.

Makes sense

Re: Grok Bot

#338

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If AGI is the next evolutionary goal, its the difference between being stuck and not. Wealth is also only relevant in a capitalistic system, which we invented. It could easily be that all other species never created capitalism and are therefore waiting for us somewere which we will not reach because we are stuck on 'wealth'. And if we are stuck in a local minimum, it might seem that GPT-2 broke us out of there.

Or LLMs will end up being the local optimum we organize society around and sacrifice everything to, and end up not being the child dream of infinite wealth and benefits the AI boosters believe in. laissez-faire capitalism tends to result in power concentration and the creation of a distinct class of hyper-wealthy and powerful individuals with close to infinite power to dictate the future. That’s pretty much the situa…

The key is machine learning.

All this massive massive massive compute can be used for different types of machine learning. Nuclear Fusion physics simulation, neural networks for every other use case etc.

I'm not sure if we needed AI/ML for breaking the memory wall.

But yeah we will see how the society will respond to more and more and more automatisation.

ML/AI/Robotics is for sure the next automatisation revolution.

Re: Grok Bot

#339
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If you have the time and are willing to do it, go check his Twitter profile. You can agree with him, but you will get it why some companies would avoid his products

I don't follow him. Sometimes he appeared on my timeline and I skimmed through. I don't agree or disagree with him strongly. There are some companies that will use or avoid certain products or people. Thus there was my question. If the question looked political, it wasn't my intention. Thx.

I don't get it why your previous comment were flagged. I understood your question and tried to answer it without being political as well. Don't worry about it

Re: Grok Bot

#340

How do they stop providers (like Amazon, etc.) from detecting and blocking these agents if they are running on cloud? I know that openai wasn't able to avoid this which is why they moved to 'computer use' on your local machine. I almost wonder if this is a place where SpaceX, as an internet provider through starlink, has a unique advantage because websites are unable to block their networking as it could be residenti…

I use Hermes locally and it’s constantly hitting bot blocks. Just trying to shop clothes for me it gets blocked.

Interesting. A residential IP was enough for me to get my Hermes agent grocery shopping successfully on a website with quite aggressive bot protection.

I run Hermes on a VPS, and the website was blocking its IP. I gave it a reverse SSH tunnel to a remote-debugging Chrome profile on my local Mac and now it works fine.

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