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Flamewar comments will get you banned here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
That was a serious question asked honestly.
I am not a troll.
Look at my past comment and post history.
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That's not going to do anything. In modern day, American companies have more to gain in China than they have to lose in the USA. The market they are chasing is 3 times larger than the US and the only "regulation" in sight is basically bribing local government. Don't be surprised if the companies you boycott simply move operations to China and cut ties with the US. China devalues its domestic currency on purpose so th…
This is completely ignoring the fact that China doesn't want foreign companies operating inside their borders unless they form a joint venture with a local Chinese owned company that owns >50%. China is also an authoritarian regime that does not care about laws if a company doesn't play ball. They will just be shut down. This doesn't sound like a good market to put all your trust into.
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Right. Here, check this: https://apparelinsider.com/bci-shanghai-claims-audit-finding... Just because people and outlets have a different opinion than you doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong, or "propagandists". Some people just have a different opinion, out of their own free will and independent thought, all right?
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Yes people can judge for themselves. Having said that, I believe I also have some say in how I think I should be judged, and that I am allowed to push back at others' attempts to put me in a box. I am not "pro-CCP". I only look that way because western mainstream media is so full of anti-China propaganda that anyone who deviates from mainstream opinion look like pro-CCP. (At this point, some will say "we are only aga…
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Don’t be surprised that people are suspicious. And it’s not because of a difference of opinion - users here are very tolerant of that - it’s because of repeated behaviour (another example: avoiding answering difficult questions regarding the alleged sexual assault of Peng Shuai).
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There is a diff between not being a troll and being respectful of alleged human rights abuses. Suggesting that we must be respectful in the light of massive human rights violations is how those human rights violations get to take place. This is the same sort of peak Silicon Valley technocrat mindset that led to things like apologizing for not sourcing parts from forced labor in China and sites like reddit holding on…
We all know there are human rights abuses in China, but no amount of emotional comments on an HN thread is gonna fix that. It would be more productive to have some sort of more thought provoking conversations.
And on the theme of discussion, isn't reddit very moderated? I think 6% of all posts where removed last year (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56099232)
Becoming an economic threat to the empire - bad, very bad. Anything you do is bad because human rights, environment, blah blah
The lack of self reflection is staggering. I expect to get flagged immediately, of course. Can't go against the narrative
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Posting this sort of hellish flamewar comment to HN will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, and regardless of which country you have a problem with. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN, we'd appreciate it. You broke a ton of them here—seriously not cool.
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You earned the prison. Is it somehow better to remove the option and just lock you up? Negative prison time, applied to a legitimate sentence, should never count as forcing.
You pretend to be unaware of false arrest, fabricated evidence, bad representation, and over-sentencing of underclass people. US citizens are not uniquely criminal, but US incarceration rate is by far highest in the world. You don't get there justly.
Like, okay, we say that anyone improperly imprisoned is being forced into labor.
What about everyone else? The argument above was that it clearly is forced labor, even when your sentence is completely valid. I disagree with that.
> US citizens are not uniquely criminal, but US incarceration rate is by far highest in the world. You don't get there justly.
It's a mix of things. Even if you fixed all the bias in the system, you could still have a high incarceration rate with harsh but not inherently unjust laws.
All: if you want to comment on HN on a divisive topic like this, please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and make sure you're commenting in the intended spirit: curious, thoughtful, respectful conversation across differences . Note, for example, this guideline—we really mean it: " Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. " Many users can't se…
There is a diff between not being a troll and being respectful of alleged human rights abuses. Suggesting that we must be respectful in the light of massive human rights violations is how those human rights violations get to take place. This is the same sort of peak Silicon Valley technocrat mindset that led to things like apologizing for not sourcing parts from forced labor in China and sites like reddit holding on…