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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by CaliforniaKarl »

Melatonic wrote: post #131
CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #49

I wonder how the subscription would respond to a person's area being blocked off. There construction happening a block down the road from me. As part of the work, the rightmost lane is often blocked during the day (in between rush hours), so that things like concrete pumping can take place. The lane block starts just before where I live. Around the same time, I noticed that when I would try to take Waymo (which I use…

Can't you just walk a block away from the construction ? Seems like a niche case

Please reference https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/11/07/Just-Dont, as discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33518496

I checked in the Waymo app; it would be several blocks. Please reference the context "which I used to get to PT". I'm happy that, today, the extra blocks are doable. Some weeks ago, those extra blocks would not be doable.

Finally, besides the point of having to walk the distance, the main issue is the way in which the blockage is being conveyed to me: The Waymo app is not saying "We cannot get to you because of construction", the app is telling me that requests have been paused. Specifically, it's telling me "All of our cars are busy with riders right now" and "We're pausing requests in order to catch up — please check back again".

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Post by iririririr »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #187
arjie wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest advantage with public transit is that your mind is not engaged driving. But at some point, the speed advantage is overwhelming. And eventually the price advantage dominates. Taking my family and grandparents to the airport is $40 by car^W rideshare and $45 by BART and twice the amount of time for me: I live upstairs from a T-train / Caltrain stop. I'd invite anyone to price out the difference themselves.…

Can you explain your math behind "$40 by car"?

if you are parking in SF, make that $60 total.

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Post by bcatanzaro »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #211
stbtrax wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like want to avoid being in an enclosed space with mentally ill, people smoking meth, people that smell of petrified urine, with uncomfortably hot temperatures and crowding.

Are people really "smoking meth" on SF Muni buses or trains? I doubt it. On a bus/train, the driver would stop and call the police. > uncomfortably hot temperatures The SF Muni trains and diesel-powered buses have air conditioning. What am I missing here?

I have been in an SF muni car with someone actively smoking something that was not marijuana or a cigarette. I think it was fentanyl but I’m not sure. This was about two years ago. I hope this is tolerated less now than it has been.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by jeffbee »

CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #323
jeffbee wrote: post #319

The term "Lyft Pink" does not seem to occur in this thread yet, so I will simply point out that a car service with a recurring subscription cost is not unprecedented.

Or Zipcar

That system has been walking into the grave for a long time. I am surprised every time I see one.

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Post by CaliforniaKarl »

joshu wrote: post #257

i had a bunch of good rides and then one highly baffling route where it got off the road it was on to a parallel road, only to get back in the same road a few blocks later. this is literally within a few hundred feet of Waymo HQ so i don’t understand how this could go unnoticed. i haven’t used it since. the 25 minute pickup times don’t help. edit: i just checked the route. 27 minutes for pickup and it diverts 20 minu…

Are you talking about El Camino Real? There are two areas of construction happening: One at Page Mill and one in the San Antonio area. Most of the lane-blocks are happening only between rush hours, so it's easy to miss, but I'm guessing that it's someone at Waymo has put full-time blocks in those areas.

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Post by throwawaytea »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #226
saghm wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine that Uber can also be somewhat sketchy but with a different risk profile (getting into the car with a stranger, often a man, and needing to trust that they'll drive you to the right location), which means that self-driving taxis would be a potential safety upgrade over that as well.

1000%. Ask any women who uses ride-hailing services: Have you ever had a situation where the driver made you uncomfortable or fear for your safety? I would conservatively estimate 100% of women. I think men just do not understand how much women are willing to pay to guarantee they can avoid this situation.

Not a single woman has even asked or cared if I felt uncomfortable at a gas station at night, or ATM, or walking down the street. Yet data shows men are more likely to be physically assaulted and/or killed by strangers.

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Post by sweetjuly »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #240
philip1209 wrote: post #53

Cash back is huge for people expensing rides. “Spend company money on us, and take your personal rides every once in a while for free.” Same model as airlines.

I see this constantly in my industry. Mid-level managers (and above) are always trying to max travel miles on company expense. If I ran my own company (dream!), I would never allow employees to reap "travel miles" from travel paid for by the company. It is ridiculous.

Are you going to ask your employees for their 2% cashback if you reimburse them for a purchase they made with their credit card too?

At the end of the day, it seems more practical to focus on ensuring that they picked the appropriate value product/service. If they picked appropriately, does it matter if the company gives them employee a kickback? Sure, the employee will then be incentivized to get the most expensive thing they can, but this was already the case because it's not their money and they want the best thing they can get away with.

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Post by trhway »

freediddy wrote: post #287
rsingel wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually blocking a road in SF can get you a felony conspiracy count with this DA, especially if they don't like your message San Francisco’s Case Against Pro-Palestinian Activists Who Blocked Bridge Heads to Jury | KQED https://share.google/4RstsRSYbqY2lEdhn

They blocked the Golden Gate Bridge which included ambulances, other emergency vehicles and thousands of people trying to get to work. I'm happy that the DA is throwing the book at them, I hope they bankrupt themselves trying to defend themselves and then spend a lot of time in jail.

While politically i'm on the opposite side of those guys, i do think that such severe prosecution is unwarranted and politically motivated (and may be intended to create chilling effect on all future protests no matter the cause) - blocking a road is a well established traditional form of protest which traditionally is expected to end with (if the judge is in a bad mood) something like disorderly conduct citation/fine, not anywhere close to felony.
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