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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by vamos_davai »

smlacy wrote: post #237
postalrat wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think sitting inside you will be protected if someone has a gun?

So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence.

Cameras aren't going to stop a crime in progress.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by sterlind »

spprashant wrote: post #229
saghm wrote: post #207

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As always, relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1958/

We do have people with real incentive to not allow self-driving cars to succeed.

I hope they succeed, for the sake of my mom who's legally blind and has dreamed about them for decades. but I'd be significantly more excited about self-driving if you could buy level-4 AVs that you can actually own.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by tjwebbnorfolk »

donkers wrote: post #252
tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #212

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I'm much less likely to get randomly harassed or robbed or stabbed or catch COVID in a car where I am the sole occupant. I'm happy to pay extra to drop the chances of those things down to 0.00%. If that makes me some kind of class supremacist in your silly world, then guilty as charged.

How often do you think that happens to transit riders? Your concerns seem overblown. And by driving, your odds of getting hurt or dying in a car accident go way up. You’re trading one set of risks for another, not eliminating risk entirely.

Yes I am trading one set of risks for another based on my judgement of which risks I prefer to bear, as it is my right to do. Simply leaving my house entails a set of risks. I get to choose how I want to handle and prioritize those.

The point is that it has absolutely nothing to do with "class".

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by arnonejoe »

boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

It would be nice if they had Bart first class with fast wifi and premium interior. The green vinyl seats are better than the old cloth ones but it’s still pretty gross.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by Rumudiez »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #161
Rumudiez wrote: post #46

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that's crazy. my 2005 volvo, 1991 nissan, and 1986 toyota altogether cost me a little over $1k per year (mostly insurance) and it was less than $10k total to buy them all. goes to show average financial literacy in the US. people won't save a few grand for a used car (or take out a small loan even!) and then pay 10x the cost for new

Most people spend more per year on gas than you claim is your total cost of ownership. Sure, cars are cheap if you never drive them.

do you buy things just to look at them? my vehicles (all 8) are for driving. fuel costs vary, and as another commenter in this thread said they were comparing $50 (max) to recharge an EV vs $40 (min) for gas. so depending on where you live, what you drive, and how you drive it you'll get wildly different ideas about fuel costs. fueling up is not maintenance either. even in the best case the difference in fuel cost is a drop in the bucket vs the difference in vehicle price

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Post by ok_dad »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #240
philip1209 wrote: post #53

Cash back is huge for people expensing rides. “Spend company money on us, and take your personal rides every once in a while for free.” Same model as airlines.

I see this constantly in my industry. Mid-level managers (and above) are always trying to max travel miles on company expense. If I ran my own company (dream!), I would never allow employees to reap "travel miles" from travel paid for by the company. It is ridiculous.

The company isn’t using the travel miles. You’re basically saying, “I’ll take away a small perk from people who are forced to travel.” It’s not like they’re stealing from the company, the company sent them somewhere else and they just got a tiny bonus for it.

The proper thing to so is stop those managers who travel too much.

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Post by freediddy »

rsingel wrote: post #276
nradov wrote: post #271

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You've got to be kidding. SF police and prosecutors barely do anything about real crimes, never mind blocking a road for a few minutes.

Actually blocking a road in SF can get you a felony conspiracy count with this DA, especially if they don't like your message San Francisco’s Case Against Pro-Palestinian Activists Who Blocked Bridge Heads to Jury | KQED https://share.google/4RstsRSYbqY2lEdhn

They blocked the Golden Gate Bridge which included ambulances, other emergency vehicles and thousands of people trying to get to work. I'm happy that the DA is throwing the book at them, I hope they bankrupt themselves trying to defend themselves and then spend a lot of time in jail.

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Post by steveklabnik »

elmomle wrote: post #202
boredatoms wrote: post #134

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Be serious. Its not a class marker, its a nessesity. Even the poor have cars People clearly chooses the convenience and predictability of cars, and pay significantly to do so In places where there is greater convenience/predictability from pubilc transit, they choose it. See london/ny

It is also a class marker. I intentionally lived without a car in West Coast city as a younger man, and I learned to be very selective about whom I told. The vast majority of people would assume that the only reason for not having a car is not being able to afford one, and would judge me accordingly.

I only recent got my driver's license again, at 40, after it expired a decade ago. Having a car just didn't make financial sense to me (and still doesn't, I just want the option to be able to drive one sometimes).

I had to learn pretty quick that, if this trivia topic came up, I'd need to mention "I lived in NYC so long that I just never used it and didn't realize it expired" because otherwise people would assume that I lost it because of too many DUIs.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by spiralcoaster »

ativzzz wrote: post #43
aduffy wrote: post #37

> “I never got my driver's license, and I rely on Waymo to commute to an office every day," said Sarah Paige Roland, a Waymo rider in Phoenix. "I get privacy, time back, a safe ride, and I'm not obligated to talk to someone that I don't want to talk to." I recognize that this is a luxury product but I kind of laughed out loud at this testimonial. The amount of privilege you need to have to grow up and live in *Arizon…

Alternatively, consider the person is disabled and is physically incapable of driving.

So what you're saying is this hypothetically disabled person who is physically incapable of driving chose NOT to mention that, but instead chose to provide "I never got my drivers license" as their reason?

And you're asking someone to consider this because I presume you think this is a likely enough scenario to consider?

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by freediddy »

smlacy wrote: post #237
postalrat wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think sitting inside you will be protected if someone has a gun?

So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence.

You mean like this?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/technology/trapped-inside...

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