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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by paulddraper »

nullwarp wrote: post #288
sbuk wrote: post #255

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I have an M1 Pro 14 and a work-issued P14s, which is awful. Creaky plastic, the worst trackpad I've ever used, has a terrible display, spongey keys and runs unfathomably hot. All. The. Time. Every time I see someone recommending Lenovo, I cringe. It is night and day when compared to the MacBook Pro.

Weirdly I have both of these as well and feel total opposite. Give me the Thinkpad keyboard any day of the week. The mac keyboard feels down right anemic. I wish mac would stop making the track pad so damn big though, the amount of palm activations I have on that thing drive me bonkers.

I have zero love for the trackpad+keyboard.

But 80% of my usage with external keyboard and mouse.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by amelius »

bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

> If i weren't an iOS dev, i would have ran away from the apple ecosystem a long time ago.

Yeah, instead of drivers for M1, I'd be more impressed+happy if someone implemented the iOS APIs running on Linux, like we have Wine for Windows on Linux.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by MBCook »

kossTKR wrote: post #313
ohgodplsno wrote: post #243

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Isn't that a weird thing to say when this thread is filled with people absolutely praising them and this achievement? I doubt HN is more or less toxic than traffic from any other mainstream site, but maybe i'm wrong.

There a reason a number of sites have taken similar positions about HN.

It’s more toxic on a few axis.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by camgunz »

kossTKR wrote: post #313
ohgodplsno wrote: post #243

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Isn't that a weird thing to say when this thread is filled with people absolutely praising them and this achievement? I doubt HN is more or less toxic than traffic from any other mainstream site, but maybe i'm wrong.

I imagine since they're on the receiving end, they'd know. Also if even one HNer tried to dox me I'd ban the lot of you, and I'm a relatively cantankerous straight white guy.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by [deleted] »

WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #319
softfalcon wrote: post #197

I wonder if support for OpenGL, Vulkan, etc will improve now that Apple is partnering with nVidia, Adobe, Autodesk, Microsoft, etc around the OpenUSD rendering/animation/CAD/3D-scene format? Considering the whole schtick of OpenUSD is "one file format that renders consistently everywhere" (paraphrasing), I would be surprised if Apple doesn't use it as a means to cement more 3D software vendors into macOS land. It's r…

> 1. Apple conforms to the existing standards of OpenGL and Vulkan we see gaining steam for many film and game production pipelines. Read what gamedevs have to say about this, Metal is more appreciated than Vulkan > 2. Apple tries to throw its weight around and force devs to support their Metal standards even more, ultimately hoping to force the world onto Metal + macOS. Apple was part of the Vulkan working group, kn…

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by MBCook »

olddustytrail wrote: post #279
ajdude wrote: post #228

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I love what they're doing, but last time I clicked a link for asahilinux on hacker news I was taken to a pop up that specifically said that readers from Hacker News are not welcomed on their site and couldn't read their content.

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And this is exactly the kind of attitude they don’t want to deal with.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by olddustytrail »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #86
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #54

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Use to be 100% linux person. I've gone through many thinkpads. M1 Air is so far beyond them it's not even close. Battery life is (not exaggerating) 5x or more in my experience. It's honest to god, much faster. Completely silent and cool. (one of my thinkpads almost burned me it got so hot, and the fans get so loud) I've never had a single crash, random restart, failure to sleep, failure to charge, driver problem, tou…

>driver problem, touchpad randomly not working, wifi failing, all of which I've had with thinkpads. Those are Linux driver issues, not HW issues.

If you're too lazy to make a Linux driver for your hardware, it's a hardware issue.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by SushiHippie »

kelnos wrote: post #308
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #293

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That's because HN has since removed referral headers on links, to work around this specific kind of blockage.

Hm, strange, HN seems to set referrer-policy to 'origin', which seems like it should send a referer header when going to external sites[0]? But clearly it does not. So I guess I'm just misunderstanding how that header works. [0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...

Look at the 'a' HTML tag.

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by stalfosknight »

> Unlike ours, the manufacturer’s M1 drivers are unfortunately not conformant for any standard graphics API, whether Vulkan or OpenGL or OpenGL ES.

Yes, it is conformant to a graphics API. It's called Metal¹. You might enjoy pretending that "the manufacturer" hasn't given a damn to provide a fully working and highly performant graphics API designed under the same roof alongside the people who designed the hardware, but this kind of petty dunking on Apple that seems to be so popular is not a good look.

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_(API)

Protip: Downvoting is not the same thing as refuting someone's argument with a cogent one of your own.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by MBCook »

bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

> This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple

But Apple clearly has zero interest in OpenGL. Thats been obvious since before the M series chips.

What they’ve done so far and continue to do is incredible. I love following what the Asahi team has done.

But anyone can win a “race” against an opponent who refuses to play.

Shame Apple for not playing the game if you want, but they could have easily done this if they wanted to.

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