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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by buildbot »

therealmarv wrote: post #66
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

I still don't understand why people think in 2023 that Android can not be a viable alternative to an iPhone. I would never use an iPhone for certain software and UX related issues (biggest is the missing back gesture/button). My Pixel does better photos than ANY iPhone on the market. Macbook Air M1, just look at Dell XPS series. Samsung S9 tablets have an OLED display. OLED... you don't get that on any iPad. Apple Wa…

Stuff like the 911 calling bug is a great example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by TillE »

paulddraper wrote: post #59
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

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I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

> yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time I miss the days when I charged my cell phone twice a week. It didn't take 100 mexapixel photos or display 4K cat GIFs, so I understand why. But I miss that battery life nonetheless.

You can still buy basic phones that last all week, they're very cheap.

But nobody wants a phone, they want a tiny portable computer.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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therealmarv wrote: post #66
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

I still don't understand why people think in 2023 that Android can not be a viable alternative to an iPhone. I would never use an iPhone for certain software and UX related issues (biggest is the missing back gesture/button). My Pixel does better photos than ANY iPhone on the market. Macbook Air M1, just look at Dell XPS series. Samsung S9 tablets have an OLED display. OLED... you don't get that on any iPad. Apple Wa…

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by jwells89 »

europeanNyan wrote: post #36
bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

On the app development side of mobile, I find Android so much more messy to develop for. It has its perks like the Jetbrains IDE and ability to use bleeding edge libraries (Jetpack), but those don’t counteract the downsides like needing a laundry list of third party libraries to do practically anything, there being no well-supported vendor-preferred “happy path” for various things, Java ecosystem baggage, fighting Proguard, etc.

And that doesn’t even get into the “fun” of there being differences between the versions of Android shipped by different vendors significant enough that maker and model-specific bugs and behavior inconsistencies are a concern, which is only a thing because of manufacturer insistence on deep customization (compare to Windows where if it runs on fine your PC, it probably does for 99%+ of other PCs too).

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by Buttons840 »

nxobject wrote: post #30
misterbishop wrote: post #27

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A rational economic system would eliminate the distinction between education and production so that people are constantly learning/improving while occasionally contributing to massive breakthroughs. We systemically under-develop every single human being on a global basis right now.

Everyone deserves an experience like that, at the very least – everyone deserves to be in a position where they have the opportunity to really enquire, or engineer, or know what it's like to solve new problems. It really is a good purpose that education could meet.

I'm frustrated that "good management" involves breaking things down so small that there is no room for enquiry or engineering. Jira ticket #5229 "Port get_order_* API" doesn't leave much room for problem solving.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #54
eru wrote: post #39

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> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them.

Use to be 100% linux person. I've gone through many thinkpads. M1 Air is so far beyond them it's not even close. Battery life is (not exaggerating) 5x or more in my experience. It's honest to god, much faster. Completely silent and cool. (one of my thinkpads almost burned me it got so hot, and the fans get so loud) I've never had a single crash, random restart, failure to sleep, failure to charge, driver problem, tou…

>driver problem, touchpad randomly not working, wifi failing, all of which I've had with thinkpads.

Those are Linux driver issues, not HW issues.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by anentropic »

alberth wrote: post #42

For clarity, this isn't the first conformant linux drivers. Apple themselves are not conformant to OpenGL® ES 3.1. So this is literally the first conformant OpenGL ES 3.1 drivers for M-Series, for any operating system (Apple or Non-Apple). Hence why the call to action to donate to the team. https://asahilinux.org/support/

Makes me wonder... is it possible to use this from macOS?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by sneak »

therealmarv wrote: post #66
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

I still don't understand why people think in 2023 that Android can not be a viable alternative to an iPhone. I would never use an iPhone for certain software and UX related issues (biggest is the missing back gesture/button). My Pixel does better photos than ANY iPhone on the market. Macbook Air M1, just look at Dell XPS series. Samsung S9 tablets have an OLED display. OLED... you don't get that on any iPad. Apple Wa…

I had a top of the line XPS. Battery life is less than half that of the Air. The speakers in the XPS sound like they are from the 90s. It gets painfully hot on the bottom case. The keyboard wrist rest area is cheap plastic. It was thicker and heavier than the MBA. Intel Iris GPU (ie slow af) versus M1/M2 GPU.

One point to the XPS: the pixel density of the 4k 13" was absolutely LOVELY. I have never seen a screen so nice.

There is really no comparison overall, though: the Apple laptops blow them (and everything else in that category) out of the water.

The top end iPhones are similarly 2-3 years ahead of the flagship Pixel devices in build quality, too. I tried, really I did.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by Bluescreenbuddy »

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…"

While I'm glad they did this, and it's a crazy fucking accomplishment, it's not really a beating. It's just Apple doesn't care. They were never in the race to begin with.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

duxup wrote: post #33
Buttons840 wrote: post #18

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Sometimes I think the biggest secret in this industry is that 2 people can outproduce even the largest companies. The only thing keeping everyone's job secure is that nobody can accurately identify which 2 people.

Isn't that often a case of "What one programmer can do in one month, two programmers can do in two months."? Companies with all their bureaucracy are often slow, but that bureaucracy also isn't entirely superfluous, and frankly I don't know if any of this was on any given company's list of things to do. Not sure anyone beat anyone to the punch here.

Yes, it is. Such a case. A team should be dependent on what needs to be implemented.

For “boring” and “well-trot” stuff that people can just do on autopilot, sure, that scales.

For projects with zero obvious paths, an experienced and lean team is necessary.

I have wasted too much time for superficial CRs, and hand-holding people who didn’t provide value.

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