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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ceeplusplus »

TAKEMYMONEY wrote: post #295
coastflow wrote: post #278

The Apple keyboard layout (with Cmd and Opt keys) is a feature that other commenters on this thread haven't yet discussed. The major producers of keyboards with the Apple layout include "Keychron" and "Royal Kludge," but the brands aren't well-known to most consumers in contrast to Logitech. Each brand also has some reports of minor problems with build quality from forum discussions on Reddit, though it remains to be…

OSX is 15% market share? Why would they make an entirely separate version on a new line of products just to cater to that, considering the fix you mentioned works for, well anyone not using VMs. (Typed this on a Ducky remapped for OSX)

It's certainly not 15% marketshare among premium corporate users. I bet if you condition on the company spending at least $700/unit on laptops for their employees, Apple's marketshare is more like 70%.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ptaken »

victorhooi wrote: post #267
arinlen wrote: post #53

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> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

Whilst I get your point - you might want to tone down the rhetoric slightly... I'm a mechanical keyboard aficionado - I've gone through everything from Das, to Annes, to WhiteFoxes, to Keychrons. (Yes, I did solder some of those...lol). My current daily driver is a Keychron K6 - but even I am seriously considering this Logitech. The spec sheet promises a battery life of 10 months (no backlight) - the Keychron K6 is f…

> I'm looking for a QMK wireless keyboard, but they're thin on the ground

The issue with wireless keyboards and QMK is that Bluetooth is such a messed up protocol and to implement it QMK would realistically have to deal with proprietary binary blobs which they choose not to. I heard there's some work on "custom" 2.4GHz transmission modes but that's not as universal or ubiquitous as Bluetooth is.

Maybe check out ZMK, basically a QMK for wireless keyboards but more opiniated. I'm about to build a wireless corne with it after years on a wired QMK Planck.

Battery life for closed source keyboards made by big companies will always be better because they have the resources to perfectly engineer the hardware and code for every model and the willingness to cut lots of corners in terms of customizability. Same with any other piece of hardware.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by swah »

koverda wrote: post #313
swah wrote: post #307

I have two mechanicals standing there, and love the tactility and all - but with a low profile like Mx Keys (or K380) I can "rest" my hand on the place it likes to stay since 1995 or something (ready for the Alt-Tabbing and the CapsLock + C/V), without bending my wrist that much...

I miss the K810 for it's perfect flatness. I've since switched to a lenovo thinkpad wireless trackpoint keyboard. It's flat, compact and awesome. I'd suggest to check it out.

Will check - I loved the keyboard on my X220. Do you use the trackpoint still?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Volundr »

visarga wrote: post #199
bayindirh wrote: post #21

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

If you don't try a few switches how do you know you got the best ones for your taste? Some are clicky, some are linear, some have double clicks (both going up and down), some are heavy, others are light. The caps matter too - full height, half height, flat or with a small depression in the middle, various types of plastic, with painted symbols or injection molded symbols for light transparency.

This comment perfectly sums up my experience trying to get into mechanical keyboards. So many choices and no good way of trying them out to figure out what I'd actually like.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bayindirh »

visarga wrote: post #199
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

If you don't try a few switches how do you know you got the best ones for your taste? Some are clicky, some are linear, some have double clicks (both going up and down), some are heavy, others are light. The caps matter too - full height, half height, flat or with a small depression in the middle, various types of plastic, with painted symbols or injection molded symbols for light transparency.

Because a) I've used IBM buckling spring keyboards and b) I've tried a lot of them on displays at shops. There were also switch samplers on display, so I was able to do side by side comparisons.

My requirements were clear. Light, some feedback, not so noisy, which is squarely brown.

Caps were easy. Put your fingers. Write a Hello World code, see how it feels. Is it alright? Done.

I've used ~15 keyboards in my life, if not more. I know what I like and I'm looking for.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by dmix »

jkaptur wrote: post #276
prometheus76 wrote: post #221

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I own a DasKeyboard with MX Browns and it's my daily driver at work. I prefer MX Blue switches (or even MX Greens) because I grew up in the old buckling spring era of IBM keyboard dominance (my home keyboard is an old Model M from the late 90s). I would use a clicky keyboard at work, but my coworkers don't like it, so I stick with the browns. I HIGHLY recommend the DasKeyboard. It's hefty, and I installed a custom ke…

I used a Das Keyboard for over a decade and loved it. Now I've switched to a Drop Alt so I can hotswap "better" switches and run QMK, which I've grown completely dependent on ( https://jkaptur.com/layout/ ). For me, keyboards like Das Keyboard, Alt, Ctrl, etc. are the perfect satisfice: good keyboards, at a price that's not terrible, with a time & research commitment that falls below the level of "hobby". I could eas…

What's the logic of using a tiny 40% keyboard like the guy uses in that blog post?

Just adding effort to add additional keys using capslock.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by AdrianB1 »

ktross wrote: post #97

Logitech is no longer the great company it used to be, so I have decided to no longer purchase their products. I purchased a G Pro X Wireless Headset less than 2 years ago, and I'm already on my second warrranty replacement (3 total headsets.) Multiple parts on it seem designed to fail, and all of mine have failed in the same way. They use laughably small screws to connect the band to the arms that hold the earcups a…

It's a hit or miss. They have the fantastic MX Master line of mouse products, for example, or some very good webcams, but not everything is so great, like your headsets. I prefer to check the product more than the company.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by visarga »

bayindirh wrote: post #325
visarga wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't try a few switches how do you know you got the best ones for your taste? Some are clicky, some are linear, some have double clicks (both going up and down), some are heavy, others are light. The caps matter too - full height, half height, flat or with a small depression in the middle, various types of plastic, with painted symbols or injection molded symbols for light transparency.

Because a) I've used IBM buckling spring keyboards and b) I've tried a lot of them on displays at shops. There were also switch samplers on display, so I was able to do side by side comparisons. My requirements were clear. Light, some feedback, not so noisy, which is squarely brown. Caps were easy. Put your fingers. Write a Hello World code, see how it feels. Is it alright? Done. I've used ~15 keyboards in my life, i…

Good for you. I ordered a switch sampler online and 2-3 keyboards until I found one that works for me. It's hard to know what you'll like unless you use it for a few days.

For example I have a heavy + linear keyboard, I was originally disappointed by it but I grew into it in a few weeks. Now I love the energy I get from the rebound of the keys.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ajmurmann »

Macha wrote: post #308
dsr_ wrote: post #87

Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

I have my keyboard connected to two computers from working from home. I have my work Mac running connected to my primary monitor and my personal computer connected to my secondary monitor because I've ran out of usb ports on my Mac. The wireless dongle + Bluetooth feature lets me have the keyboard connected to both without needing a KVM setup. The laptop also moves, and I take the wireless keyboard with me when in th…

I am really surprised by the benefit being switching between machines. For me switching bluetooth devices always has been much harder than just plugging a cable into a different machine. Is the dongle making this easier? Don't you still have to switch what machine the dongle is plugged into?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by k2enemy »

mattnguyen wrote: post #318

Is there a wireless mechanical _split_ keyboard with tilt and wrist support? I currently have a Kinesis Freestyle Pro, which is fine for me, but they do not support a wireless version. This has helped with my wrist issues, but it's not practical for traveling.

I really wish Microsoft would make a version of the ergonomic sculpt with low profile mechanical switches.
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