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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Is this just the G915 without the gamery branding?

Looks like it. It is probably using the same switches since you can choose what switch type you want.

I don't understand all the hate in this comment section.

I love my G915 and I would prefer this design compared to the gamer RGB for an office setting or professional desk.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I own a DasKeyboard with MX Browns and it's my daily driver at work. I prefer MX Blue switches (or even MX Greens) because I grew up in the old buckling spring era of IBM keyboard dominance (my home keyboard is an old Model M from the late 90s). I would use a clicky keyboard at work, but my coworkers don't like it, so I stick with the browns. I HIGHLY recommend the DasKeyboard. It's hefty, and I installed a custom ke…

Second, I love this keyboard, but it isn't wireless, which I think is a fair requirement. I personally like my keyboards to be wired, but can see why someone might seek out something like the Logitech keyboard.

Even with the browns, in a quiet office full of laptop keyboard users, any mechanical keyboard is going to seem loud. Mechanical keyboards always had the multiple benefits for me of: 1) more like the thing I grew up using, 2) loud enough that maybe they'd prefer I work from home :)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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I have two mechanicals standing there, and love the tactility and all - but with a low profile like Mx Keys (or K380) I can "rest" my hand on the place it likes to stay since 1995 or something (ready for the Alt-Tabbing and the CapsLock + C/V), without bending my wrist that much...

I miss the K810 for it's perfect flatness. I've since switched to a lenovo thinkpad wireless trackpoint keyboard. It's flat, compact and awesome. I'd suggest to check it out.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I feel that. Not everyone wants to make keyboards a hobby.

What I'll say is: I've had both the MX Keys, and the G915. The MX Keys is the baby brother chicklet version of this one. The G915 is Logitech's gaming-grade low-profile mechanical keyboard, using switches that visually look similar to this one. I've had switch failures on both, within 18 months of (reasonably heavy) use; double typing, missed inputs, etc. The only keyboard I've had fail quicker is the MacBook Pro butterfly keyboards; but I have a half dozen which have lasted significantly longer.

A few other paths I'd recommend which are better:

1. Go to Best Buy. I know, old school. Most have a gaming products isle, with keyboards, and a display area with a bunch of them. Try them all out. Try to find one with standard Cherry switches (most have them nowadays, except Logitech and maybe Razer; and they'll advertise it proudly on the box). They'll have RGB and other nonsense, but they're reasonably price competitive and generally solid keyboards. Corsair makes some good ones; I have a Corsair that sees daily use that's gotta be 4-5 years old now, on Cherry MX Red switches.

2. Something like this: https://kbdfans.com/collections/fully-assembled-keyboard. Pre-assembled DIY. You'll probably end up paying a bit more, and even their pre-assembly DIY configurator is, frankly, daunting. But the only thing to really worry about is selecting the right switch brand for you; and YouTube can help a lot, locating videos of people typing on each switch type. For the totally uninclined: Cherry Reds are the classic novice switch (or Silent Reds if you want really low sound, but the Reds themselves are pretty quiet).

Frankly, to me; this isn't a situation where I will argue "all big box brands suck, don't buy a big box". Some of them are pretty good. But Logitech keyboards have really dropped in quality lately; if you're going to go big box, at least don't go Logitech, please.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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there is subtle difference in situation you both describing, but that subtle difference can be HUGE thing. MX series can be connected to multiple devices, most bluetooth accessories cant, still in BT5 world, but thats how it is. so. even if software is absolutely same, you get better experience with MX keyboards.. because you dont have to pair it everytime you take your keyboard to work etc. which most keyboards fail…

and this switching works even if you do not use ANY software.

Yes, that is multi-device bluetooth. Neat and definitely better implemented than in some cheaper devices. However, the question was specifically about the flow software.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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so what's the recommendation for a mechanical keyboard that can be used in a silent, office environment (with coworkers) ?

i went over some of the comments and read about "MX Browns" and "low profile switches", etc. What should I be googling for ?

this is one of the reason me and several of my colleagues never got into mechanical keyboards - the sound. not all of us have the liberty to work at home because we prefer mechanical keyboards. OTOH we would prefer not to piss everyone off with loud keyboards. I suspect many people are in this boat.

Are there mechanical keyboards which have the sound profile of a regular keyboard ? i know they may not be the best in the "mechanical keyboard feel"..but im ok with that.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I feel that. Not everyone wants to make keyboards a hobby. What I'll say is: I've had both the MX Keys, and the G915. The MX Keys is the baby brother chicklet version of this one. The G915 is Logitech's gaming-grade low-profile mechanical keyboard, using switches that visually look similar to this one. I've had switch failures on both, within 18 months of (reasonably heavy) use; double typing, missed inputs, etc. The…

I have the G915tkl and it still works perfectly over two years later. Wild that you had such bad experience with them!

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Is there a wireless mechanical _split_ keyboard with tilt and wrist support?

I currently have a Kinesis Freestyle Pro, which is fine for me, but they do not support a wireless version. This has helped with my wrist issues, but it's not practical for traveling.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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so what's the recommendation for a mechanical keyboard that can be used in a silent, office environment (with coworkers) ? i went over some of the comments and read about "MX Browns" and "low profile switches", etc. What should I be googling for ? this is one of the reason me and several of my colleagues never got into mechanical keyboards - the sound. not all of us have the liberty to work at home because we prefer…

Browns (Cherry MX is the brand you might have heard referenced, but other switch manufacturers tend to align their colour coding for analogous offerings) are noticeably quieter but they're not going to sound like a mushy non-mechanical switch. Also, they're not meant to be bottomed out but many typists do bottom them out frequently, which makes them louder. Still I find they are a lot more forgiving to your coworkers than a clicky switch.

Part of me wants to say "that's the company's problem to fix", if the working arrangement is such that keystrokes can negatively impact your coworkers. Things like white noise generators and walls go a long way to dampening that.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

From the looks of the side profile, this is using low profile mechanical switches, which seem uncommon or at the very least not popular in the mech keyboard community. I don’t think that they’re targeting the same sort of user as the enthusiast board manufacturers do. I mean the MX Keys is a popular product outside of mech keyboard circles, this may be positioned as an alternative for those users

I think there isn't adoption to low profile keys because of compatibility and snobs.

I have been using the gaming version of this keyboard (G915) for years and would prefer not going back to high rise keys.

Better ergonomics, looks better, easier to clean, less wobbly keys, smaller chance of breaking a keycap.

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