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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by MontagFTB »

withzombies wrote: post #311
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

The Hill article[1] says it won't go into effect until November 20, 2023. > The proposal would not take effect until Nov. 20, 2023, to give airlines and other transportation industries more time to adjust to the change. But we switch back to standard time on November 5, 2023. Just to get two weeks of that until we switch back to summer time permanently? [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/598314-senate-unanimousl…

This made me laugh out loud.

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Post by fuzzer37 »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Who cares when it's light out. Just stop changing the time.

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Post by OrwellianChild »

rhexs wrote: post #228
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

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For context, BC, Washington, Oregon, and California have all passed state bills to move to permanent DST but need Federal approval per U.S. law. In short, they did get approval from the time zone who will be first to make the change, and the support is pretty overwhelmingly in favor. The North American west coast will change as one to full time DST if this passes the House and is signed by the President.

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Post by Bilal_io »

mrfusion wrote: post #286
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

You could really think of it starting in March 2023.

~~I assume they'll be doing the November switch and staying on it permanently. So, it wouldn't be starting in March 2023.~~

Seems like I misread what was stated in the article.

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Post by pkulak »

standardUser wrote: post #64
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Personally, I have wanted more daylight in the evening hundreds of times in my life, at least. It's the obvious result of average workdays ending at 5 or 6 (or later) and our "free time" being restricted to a sliver of daylight much of the year. But how often have I wanted more daylight in the morning? Basically never.

How often do you "want" more fiber? It's about being healthy. Waking up in the dark for 3 straight months isn't as healthy as the alternative.

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Post by FL410 »

mtoner23 wrote: post #23
shadowofneptune wrote: post #6

This is excellent. With the rise of air conditioning, daylight savings has considerably less electricity savings than it used to. It will also make timekeeping more consistent. I have lived in Arizona for the past few years and it is pleasant to know that you will always be at UTC-7:00.

True, but this keeps daylight savings permanent not standard time.

It actually sets "standard time" to what is currently daylight saving time, and deletes DST.

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Post by OrwellianChild »

codazoda wrote: post #317

How out of date is Congress.gov, which still shows this bill as having last action in March of 2021 and the status is "referred to committee" which is where all the legislation I care about seems to go to die. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623 Why is Twitter a better place to get this news than a .gov website that seems like it was built for it?

The world moves at the speed of Twitter - this is confirmation with video from the senator who originated the bill: https://twitter.com/PattyMurray/status/1503804622087020545

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Post by hinkley »

travisjungroth wrote: post #315
hinkley wrote: post #214

I think I can say this on behalf of most developers who have ever had to fix DST errors in their code: Thank fucking god. I am shocked that none of our unit tests failed on Monday. One of the first code reviews I did here I pointed out that his tests were going to break in a few months when DST kicked in because his tests asserted that there was a 24 hour gap between two calculations. He responded this code was tempo…

Fixed one of these yesterday!

My favorite is when they fix 23 hours in the spring and then have to fix 25 hours in the fall, although the reverse is easier to do.
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