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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#62

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

When did virtue signaling become a bad thing? If the goal of the act is to protect people's access to sunshine, why not say as much -- at least the act has a human readable name.

Virtue signalling usually is juxtaposed with being virtuous for its own sake: Those who have to tell everyone how good/enlightened/progressive they are usually aren't.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#64

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Personally, I have wanted more daylight in the evening hundreds of times in my life, at least. It's the obvious result of average workdays ending at 5 or 6 (or later) and our "free time" being restricted to a sliver of daylight much of the year. But how often have I wanted more daylight in the morning? Basically never.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#66

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

This is exactly what I was wondering. Why do we think it will go better this time?

Also isn’t 9 months a relatively short warning given all the systems that will need updates?

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#67

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

The amount of sunlight stays the same. The question is whether you want more of it in the morning or the evening, and there isn't a "correct" answer there. Going by general public sentiment I'm willing to bet it's more towards the latter though.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#68

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Personally, I have wanted more daylight in the evening hundreds of times in my life, at least. It's the obvious result of average workdays ending at 5 or 6 (or later) and our "free time" being restricted to a sliver of daylight much of the year. But how often have I wanted more daylight in the morning? Basically never.

True.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#69
post #56

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

Because our politics are in many ways a clown show. It probably polls well when you ask regular people who haven't considered why we do this. That they feel sad because the Sun goes down at 5:00AM when it's cold but don't consider that without this then the Sun won't come up until 8:30AM.

"In a Roper poll conducted in February and March, just 30 percent remained in favor of year-round daylight saving time, while a majority favored switching times again. Louis Harris polling in March showed just 19 percent of people said it had been a good idea, while about twice as many — 43 percent — said it was a bad one."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/15/no-more-c...

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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What does this mean in terms of short-term, real-world effect in the US?

Nothing. The guy who runs tzdata will be busy. Various things that hardcoded DST will break in six months. Hundreds of millions of people won't have a sleep disruption in the fall. Other countries may follow suit. Etc.

Please tell me there is more than one person
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