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FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by steelframe »

dahfizz wrote: post #287
solveit wrote: post #254

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In fact postal services in many countries do function as banks. When I was a primary school student in South Korea, we all made a savings account at the local post office and learned about how banks work and the importance of saving money.

I've never understood this. There doesn't seem to be a natural synergy between delivering mail and storing money. Is it just because post offices are everywhere? Why not make court houses banks? At least they would have security. Or town halls? It just feels kinda random.

Post offices have to be able to handle money orders paid for in cash, so I guess they already have the infrastructure to do a significant subset of bank-like things. At least with respect to document authentication and cash management.

https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Money-Orders-The-Basics

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Post by djmips »

momirlan wrote: post #293
function_seven wrote: post #122

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Just a couple months ago I had a couple of forms rejected with a note “needs wet signature” They were for a 401(k) plan I was updating RMD choices. I got the PDF form from their site, filled it out in Preview, pasted my signature PNG, and used an app on my phone to fax it(!) to their number. Got rejected. Had to actually print the damn things and sign them with a pen, scan them again with my phone’s camera, and re-fa…

How wet ? You could add a "splash" effect on top of the signature

Maybe a coffee cup ring?

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Post by standardUser »

dijonman2 wrote: post #282
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #271

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Yes they’ve been using the phrase “ensuring voter quality” to justify measures which essentially restrict access to voting for the poor.

I can’t help but see this as some sort of propaganda. Where’s the evidence this is a concerted effort against poor people? You can’t do much in life without ID.

"You can’t do much in life without ID."

This is a common belief that, to me, displays a serious lack of knowledge of the breadth of human experience. It should not be hard to imagine how people who are some combination of very sick, old, lonely, disabled or poor can have their ID expire and then not get a new one for year after year. Yet people seem to constantly proclaim this as unthinkable or nonsensical, as if only their version of a lived life is believable.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by lucb1e »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #310
lucb1e wrote: post #272

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When is the last time you had to pinch and zoom on a website? Text can reflow perfectly well, if you give the renderer the necessary information. With PDF, similar to PNG, you're specifically telling the renderer to put this pixel exactly over there and nowhere else, so it cannot nicely make it all be readable comfortably. If mobile devices required zooming and panning to read anything, they'd not be popular at all,…

A4 is the issue. Mobile friendly pdfs could be done, just stick bigger text on each page like a kindle does.

But then you have super narrow views on desktop, we don't want that either. What's wrong with just using the formats we already have for reflowable text, why bother trying to make PDF into something it's fundamentally made not to do?

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Post by joshuaissac »

Osiris wrote: post #222

If you have a PDF editor that can save a PDF/A (archive PDF), it'll convert the whole document into an image. So, I just paste in my signature and export as a PDF/A and from their perspective it's just a single image like it was scanned.

PDF/A does not turn everything into an image. It is just a more restricted version of the PDF format, and it still has text, embedded fonts, etc.

The image conversion might be a separate feature in your PDF editor.

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Post by lucb1e »

jve wrote: post #283
lucb1e wrote: post #269

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It has been four hours, OP is nowhere to be seen. I hope they're okay amidst all the legalese. More seriously, do let us know what you find. I've heard both sides on this but the "verbal agreement is also binding (just gl proving it)" side is usually from better sources like an actual lawyer posting on a forum as opposed to a random boss making claims about signature requirements, for example.

> from better sources like an actual lawyer posting on a foru Yeah, you're right. Please do not take me as an authority or lawyer on that matters. It's just what I think I know, but I may very well be wrong :) What I read is that even informational documents are considered in court. However document that bears legal validity, must contain: document name, date, signature (with exceptions) and recipient. However I did…

Interesting, thanks for sharing all this!

> Yeah, you're right. Please do not take me as an authority or lawyer on that matters.

Sorry I phrased my previous reply badly. What I meant is generally the two camps on this, that typically one of them seems to speak from a more knowledgeable position/perspective than the other. I did not mean to suggest that you are not knowledgeable!

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Post by JorgeGT »

spapas82 wrote: post #302
divbzero wrote: post #279

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Yes, and in some contexts people seem to recognize digitally signed PDFs only when they “officially” processed by DocuSign, HelloSign, or a similar professional service.

Well it depends on the laws of each country. In my country (Greece) a digitally signed document is acceptable everywhere at least in the public sector. Actually it's illegal for a public servant to deny a digitally signed document! No professional service is really needed to sign a document; it all depends on the acceptance of the certificate you use for signing by your government/laws. I.e you may need to buy a cert…

This is actually an EU reglament, furthermore your Greek digital certificate should work everywhere in the EU! :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIDAS

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Post by malka »

ctoth wrote: post #306
scarby2 wrote: post #243

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> There's no good reason anyone would intentionally want to keep the poor poor, it's just bad design. We need people to feel pressured into doing shitty jobs, if the poor get less poor maybe they won't flip burgers for minimum wage.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just push forward with the robot thing rather than some decades-long (Real ID started in 2005 or 6) super-complicated social engineering project? If the goal is find a way to ensure burgers are flipped and toilets cleaned, wouldn't the rational idea be to invest in robotics and involuntary birth control technology, not try to ride herd on a giant mob of poor people who might turn on their "m…

Humans are cheaper than robots. You can make one run on about a bowl of rice per day.

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Post by dghlsakjg »

monocasa wrote: post #226
SamBam wrote: post #190

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Only if you have a driving license and plan on driving. I agree, it's quite odd that you never officially register as a resident of the state, but I guess it's part of the US's aversion to "papers please."

There's also the state v. federal political issue of the interstate commerce clause. Some municipalities in the pretty far past have tried to restrict people moving there by creating onerous registration barriers that were then struck down by the feds. They're allowed some leeway there, but there's a limit that they don't want to push and the feds are more than happy to enforce their power. My state (CO) semi recentl…

As a Colorado born kid, I always thought the pioneer plates were the ultimate form of the "Native" bumper sticker. Mind you, I think that basing your identity on where your mother happened to be when she gave birth is exceptionally stupid.

That said, Florida can take Rep. Boebert back at any point.

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