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I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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Post by jpl56 »

WD-42 wrote: post #288
drnick1 wrote: post #287

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> We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. This may be true, but as far as I am concerned there aren't ads anywhere thanks to uBlock (and my own DNS server as a second line of defense).

And how’s that going to work against LLM output?

Ad blockers will evolve, they will read LLM output and filter out ads and the reasoning leading to ads, unless the user's question was about asking for the best product to do something.

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Post by anshumankmr »

amarant wrote: post #209
Muhammad523 wrote: post #86

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Maybe people will start running local models on their phones to avoid this, i've seen a couple of apps for android that do just that.

My rtx5090 does not have enough vram to run a large model at usable speeds. What kind of phone do you have that outperforms my gaming rig?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/locally-ai-local-ai-chat/id674... these are not powerful models but if compute on the iPhone increases, it may be plausible.

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Post by yunnpp »

whatsupdog wrote: post #295
yunnpp wrote: post #251

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In the US.

There's a big world out of US you know?

Yes, I know. I thought you were asking where do ads need to be labelled as such, and I gave an example.

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Post by hinkley »

nervysnail wrote: post #235
hinkley wrote: post #178

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3) Private equity buys the company, and turns the screws on the sticky users until blood comes out of the tap. 4) eulogies on the front page of HN

I think you meant 'elegy'.

I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen a poem or song about their amazing journey. So no.

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Post by ikr678 »

tencentshill wrote: post #192
svilen_dobrev wrote: post #156

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> the real danger from AI (ads) is the AI slowly convincing you to ${GOAL:-buy stuff} over time. (man bash: ${X:-abcde} means use value of X else abcde by default ) where GOAL can be anything one may be persuaded into. Choosing $15 burger over $7, brand X over brand Y, notion of X wholesale (to EV or not to EV), Elections, climate-this-or-that, ... People are massively using it as search engine. So it does not need t…

Advertisers don't have time for subtle influence campaigns. They need $x sales, this quarter, with this budget for ad spend. Put a big red banner somewhere and make it happen.

Some advertisers definitely do subtle influence campaigns, particularly where they are a banned product (see: smoking).

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Post by heavyset_go »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #300
heavyset_go wrote: post #259

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This is quaint. The darkest monetization is turning it into 4chan 2.0: an overwhelming psyop to mobilize exploitable people to think, believe and do horrendous shit that conveniently benefits the most powerful and corrupt people on Earth. It will make Qanon seem like a cute ARG.

Dude, look back on the last 20yr. If you think that sort of think is limited to "alternative" places like 4Chan you're sorely mistaken. What you're afraid of is already here and has been for a long time.

I'm well aware that the internet is overwhelmingly a psyop. I brought up 4chan because of just how absurd, influential and successful its manipulation has been. It shit-tier meme'd its way to a presidency and multiple worldwide movements that culminated in a subsequent insurrection, all the while being incredibly, well, dumb.

The fact that we have people goosestepping to MSpaint frog meme flags and mass shooters doing it for the lulz shows how stupid things can get and will continue to be.

Multiply that by x10000 and that's the vision for the future: memelords stamping on a human face forever at the behest of the Ministry of Memes.

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