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US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Yes, actually. - If you host your own servers you can still verify. - if you are using well-designed, human-centric software, untrusted servers (read: all servers you do not have control of / cannot audit) would not have any access to private data due to encryption, and clients can be verified to make sure decryption only occurs on the client side The trouble is, this kind of software is a poison pill to advertising.…

> would not have any access to private data due to encryption It's pretty difficult to fully scrub yourself of the metadata involved in making a connection to a server. For sure it can be minimized, like Signal does. But this has inherent UX tradeoffs that most people are not willing to make, like requiring you share your phone number to use the service, and not having server-based backup (yet, at least).

It is difficult with the way things are now, yes. It will not be difficult for much longer.

It was once difficult for me to communicate with you, me being a stranger to you and you being the same, having never met in person. But here we are.

We are all experts at solving difficult problems & giving access to those solutions to everyone.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Reading through the slides, it appears that what has been discussed is sharing signature and fingerprints for travel into the USA. There is a lot of weasel words, but it's probably worth nothing that the USA currently collects this information for foreign nationals coming into the USA (as the EU does for Americans traveling into the EU). This is being done in the context of a DB query as part of the e VISA applicatio…

Considering that 9/11 was in part a Saudi kingdom operation, I’m not convinced having more US-Saudi cooperation would have helped Edit: what’s with the downvotes?

It might have helped the Saudi terrorists.

I am thankful that the EU is standing up against this threat.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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> where US and Saudi systems did not communicate and resulted in known terrorists in Saudi Arabia being able to travel at will into the USA. I'm not even sure how to classify this sentence...

Naive.

I'm leaning more towards deliberately obtuse.

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> ToS is like HR: they both exist to protect only the company. This is, of course, not true about HR and yet another thing people just say to sound cool. HR’s job is to hire people and run your payroll and benefits. If you have a health insurance question are you going to avoid them because they’re going to fire you as soon as you look at them? No. If you’re a first level manager molesting a distinguished engineer ar…

Well, HR as any other power structure is to protect status quo. They will sack anyone if they see it necessary to protect the status quo. But more importantly, HR will create mindless policies to show you how powerful they are. As border force forcing your sneakers of.

> to show you how powerful they are

To show you how useful they are. It’s very much a matter of misaligned incentives I think. Of course HR has all day to execute their own policies, so they don’t see them as an overt burden.

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This is yet another violation of the forth Amendment right to privacy by the United States federal government as outlined by the Bill of Rights which applies to all people, not just US citizens and is self-evident and inalienable. Democracy worldwide is in absolute shambles as the United States government abandons the rule of law in favor of absolute dictatorship.

Unfortunately the First is the only Amendment that still exists to some extent, the others are long time broken in court, by federal and local government and police forces.

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I live in America and I'm not convinced that America has leverage over my country. The steering wheel on this thing appears to be broken.

Understandable position, but I think you should be aware that the US Government is capable of moving fast and decisively in rare but unpredictable circumstances. Only 44 days elapsed between 2001/9/11 and the passage of the Patriot Act on 2001/10/25. Things usually don't change that fast, but nobody can truly predict the geopolitical landscape even half a year into the future.

I’m fairly certain nobody will be passing a patriot act over something this banal though.

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Considering that 9/11 was in part a Saudi kingdom operation, I’m not convinced having more US-Saudi cooperation would have helped Edit: what’s with the downvotes?

It might have helped the Saudi terrorists. I am thankful that the EU is standing up against this threat.

What threat again?

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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We have had the Five Eyes and ECHELON for decades. Since before the Snowden revelations. How is this different? They don’t spy on their own citizens but they exchange info with the other spy agencies, so…

> They don’t spy on their own citizens Correct, that would be illegal. When NSA need to spy on an american, they ask GCHQ to do it for them and buy the data. Or buy it off a private company.

That’s what I meant. But the sibling thread somehow devolved into making fun of this idea!
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