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Post by hunter2_ »

JohnBooty wrote: post #86
joegahona wrote: post #67

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I don't know, @hamburglar -- judging by just the comments in this thread, it wasn't so obvious to others. And "real-time lyrics" is _already_ in Apple Music. In your/Apple's defense, the photo they included is pretty clear what's going on. Important to note the footnote on the page -- this isn't even full-fledged karaoke: "The vocal slider adjusts vocal volume, but does not fully remove vocals." I'm being nitpicky fo…

And "real-time lyrics" is _already_ in Apple Music. Currently, Apple Music lyrics are synced to the current line of lyrics (if the lyrics metadata supports it) This new feature appears to sync the lyrics to the current word of lyrics, which is what karaoke usually does. Not sure how big a deal that is to folks looking to do their own vocals. I'm curious about how they're doing that word-for-word timing. Hardcoded met…

The metadata exists in special karaoke recordings, but assuming they're using original recordings not created/modified for karaoke, they'd have to create it on the fly:

I'd guess it's done using the same speech-to-text system used by voice assistants, which can certainly show the words it hears in near-realtime -- and way more quickly when it already knows what words it's listening for.

By the way, karaoke often highlights individual syllables, not just whole words.

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kalleboo wrote: post #303
CharlesW wrote: post #139

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> Often it is the original soundtrack with the vocals suppressed (sometimes well via remastering and sometimes poorly with an equalizer). Properly licensed karaoke tracks are covers, because licensing custom remixes of original tracks is prohibitive. There are sites where you can buy stems/backing tracks of any song you can think of, which are reproductions by talented musicians. https://www.karaoke-version.com/custo…

That's not an essential component of Karaoke though. I live in Japan where Karaoke is extremely popular, and in the more higher-end karaoke systems, you can pick the original music for popular songs (or sometimes you can even pick live performances with the video of the artist on stage and everything)

Fair enough, but the use of original source material is still the exception by a wide margin.

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Post by beaker52 »

smugma wrote: post #291
beaker52 wrote: post #275

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This is what my wife and I do, it’s pretty flawless. YouTube + Mic & mixer to a separate speaker. It’s the only way, and YouTube has the best karaoke. Routing the mic through your AV setup _will_ result in a delay which’ll make for a horrible experience. So don’t bother. Get a cheap mixer and a decentish Shure mic, a single active studio monitor and you’re away.

On YouTube are you getting the original recordings with the vocals removed? Or it doesn’t matter to you?

Just search for any song and append “ karaoke” and you’ll find a plethora of renditions ready to sing. Some are better than others so YMMV.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

mikestew wrote: post #218
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #194

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> The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible As long as you have a 0 latency Mic setup then just that and YouTube searching Karaoke versions with AdBlocker works beautifully.

As an exercise for the reader: see if you can count the barriers-to-entry for the average person in this suggestion, and then contrast and compare to Apple's offering.

I mean I'm the one suggesting it and it's still a pain for me to set up after a few drinks, used to have the Microphones going into the computer and then that being the whole output but we literally just plug mics direct from receiver to speakers because a MacOS update introduced latency.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

idontwantthis wrote: post #304
jadbox wrote: post #231

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any specific recommendations for a setup?

JBL partybox and any wired microphone.

Wireless mics work fine too, just need to make sure its going through as few devices as possible. So I plug the Mic receiver box straight into two speakers, one for each mic.
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