Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

Post by chii » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 9:37 AM UTC

baddox wrote: post #260

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #106

Not even getting into the CCP ties, it's always struck me as unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China, while Chinese ones have been able to compete Worldwide. In a way this gives Chinese apps an immediate advantage (as some are indirectly calling out in this comment section). If you want to reach out to someone in China, you have to use a Chinese company's app. Since social media is mostly a win…

> it's always struck me as unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China, while Chinese ones have been able to compete Worldwide. It’s weird to point out this double standard but then apparently take the side of both countries banning foreign media companies.

Post by Razengan » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

Post by noir_lord » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 9:39 AM UTC

rsa25519 wrote: post #309

Twisell wrote: post #304

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But you have no safeguard against that? I mean here in France when the government or the assembly trie to pass a law that is potentially unconstitutional there is an emergency review process by the "constitutional council" that can veto all or parts of the law that infringe. This process just happened recently because our president tried to pass a "hate law" on social media that was deemed unconstitutional because it…

> But you have no safeguard against that? We do: the judicial branch.

Post by glenstein » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 9:44 AM UTC

mFixman wrote: post #285

vwat wrote: post #280

From first principles reasoning, this is a good idea. We don’t ban Chinese websites, books or products. Although we tax their products more now. Apps aren’t like physical commodities. They can be used to gather data, quite invasively, shape and form public opinion in a new and more visceral way, as well as take advantage of exploits. Admittedly websites can do that too, but the scale of adoption of Tiktok makes this…

> [...] we gain almost nothing by having tiktok around. We gain an outlet or creativity that's particularly fun for teens. You might as well say that we gain nothing by banning skateboards, video games, or rock music. I would agree more with the ban of there was any evidence of nefarious data mining by TikTok. Outside of weird Internet rumors they only seem to collect basic user data and whatever you write in your pr…

Post by La1n » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 9:51 AM UTC

coliveira wrote: post #210

dragonwriter wrote: post #201

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> The US is acting like a desperate country that has no idea what it is doing The US Administration is acting like a desperate regime that knows exactly what it is doing trying to generate a foreign crisis to distract from domestic political problems to generate a rally-around-the-flag effect.

I agree with that. In fact it seems like Trump is trying very hard to start a new war before the election.