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Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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Does the cancellation involve loss of data? If so I think making it hard is fair.

It doesn't involve any loss of data, but it could degrade your data safety. If you cancel your subscription, your quota is reduced and, if you're now over quota your desktop client stops syncing. It may also prevent Camera Uploads from working on your phone. So you might delete a photo from your phone assuming it was uploaded to Dropbox but it wasn't because you were over quota.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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I have been working as a ux consultant for 15 years now, there are two things that are serious problems: 1. Forcing your users into actions they don’t want to take (dark patterns) 2. Having users delete their accounts and data because you didn’t install enough hurdles on their way to the delete button I am actually not very sure what we see here, is it a dark pattern? It could be, but at the size of Dropbox I could e…

> I have been working as a ux consultant for 15 years now > ... > I am actually not very sure what we see here, is it a dark pattern? It sounds like you've been in the grey/black side of the UX industry for too long, and have become a bit institutionalised. eg You're not see things clearly. If possible, maybe take a break from the UX space for a year or so, and do something else? Might help to regain your sense of th…

I'm not an UX consultant and what justinclift said makes sense. Maybe the downgrading process could be a bit more streamlined, but, since you're dealing with data, erring on the side of caution does not seem too bad of a strategy.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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By the way, for those who don't want to use one of the existing providers [1] and don't want to operate their own server either: Hetzner started their Nextcloud as a service recently: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/nextcloud I haven't tested it yet, as I am running my Nextcloud on my own server, but I found their offer quite compelling. [1]: https://nextcloud.com/signup/

Interesting. Makes sense at the low end I guess. The more expensive ones are quite similar to their dedicated servers, which gets you compute as well. So you'd be better off rolling it yourself.

yes, you can get 130TB RAID6 of 15 disks for 269 a month. But in case you need less...

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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I cancelled Dropbox for Business a few days ago and it wasn't as bad as this video.

- I went into settings

- Pressed the button to cancel the plan

- ~75 words about what would happen to the individual accounts created with the Dropbox for Business plan

- One more button saying I still wanted to cancel my account

- Three checkboxes confirming that I understand my data would be deleted from Dropbox

- Now I could finally cancel

It might sound like a lot, but I appreciate that they didn't have any "No I don't wanna be awesome anymore and have 10TB of Dropbox storage" like they did in this video.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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post #27

Amazon is the same. I just cancelled Prime yesterday. It took me four or five confirmations that yes, I want to lose the benefits. The buttons were jumping around. Sometimes the left one was for cancelling, sometimes the right one, sometimes it was a few centimeters lower. I love my Kindle, but without that my Amazon account itself would be in real danger.

True, Amazon Prime is full of dark patterns when you want to cancel.

I got the first two months free (Amazon.de), and at the end of the trial, when I wanted to cancel, they added a month for free, and I accepted the free month. My card was charged regardless and I had to email them to cancel it finally with no option to cancel at the end of this extended trial.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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Other than PayPal monetizing your payment history, sure it’s great. Apple makes it even easier. This is tangential, but on the topic of PayPal and privacy, this article is interesting about PayPal and HIPAA: https://simple.icouch.me/blog/is-paypal-hipaa-compliant-revi... Short answer: if privacy matters, PayPal is a non-starter. I don’t want news publishers to have my information either. I know publishers like to how…

What is the alternative? Is, what do informed people do instead of using credit cards or PayPal to buy things? (I assume stripe is the same)

iDeal- basically money from my bank account to the bank account of the person I'm doing business with. Instant, free and no Sillicon Valley dipshit middle men parasites.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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post #155

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So much this. I LOVE paypal as a user because of it. All my subscriptions go through it and if it isn't offered via paypal, I'll reconsider. I love to see a list of all my subscriptions with the ability to unilaterally cancel my subscription at any time via PayPal... I never even contact the companies I 'unsubscribe' from... I simply remove their access to my paypal.

Just be careful with this. Some companies will treat this as if it were a bounced check and keep your debt going.

From a legal perspective, would it be enough to send them an e-mail telling them that you no longer want to subscribe to the services before pulling the plug?

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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post #4

Ha, not as hard as I expected but still like 4-5 steps with a bunch of dark patterns (highlighting the buttons that don't downgrade, etc). The screen that's like "OK, you want to downgrade, but tell us why " gave me flashbacks to that nightmare Comcast cancellation call[0]. [0] https://soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service

> tell us why

This is where you copy-paste the timecube website and tell them you don't want to do business with a company that cannot understand 4-corner time.

Re: Cancelling Dropbox Pro is hard

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post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just be careful with this. Some companies will treat this as if it were a bounced check and keep your debt going.

From a legal perspective, would it be enough to send them an e-mail telling them that you no longer want to subscribe to the services before pulling the plug?

Probably depends on whether you email an appropriate address?
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