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Re: Trump

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Post by jameslee56 »

giaour wrote: post #280
throwanem wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone would be shocked to hear an assertion that a white judge had mistreated someone who wasn't white on the basis of the latter's race. There might (or might not) be public debate over whether the assertion was true, but no one would be appalled merely at the claim's having been made. (Indeed, such claims are made daily and have been for many years, yet rarely seem to be regarded as less newsworthy f…

Trump decided to use his position as the presumptive presidential nominee of a major political party to interfere in in a civil suit related to his personal business interests. That alone makes me wonder if he would abuse the power of his office should we win the election. That he did so by invoking the judge's race made him look desperate and unable to control his own temper. I'm sure you're right that defendants in…

That is still peanuts compare to the other and only female presidential candidate. Just google how bad she abused her power all the way back in decades. Using that as benchmark, Trump looks damn honest and worthy of POTUS and MAGA. He has my vote (together with almost few hundreds of my family and friends votes in Nov). It is always the choice of lesser of 2 evils and economy. Trump proved with his billions that he can do it when it comes to money. Though I don't know how evil he is, I do know the other candidate is on par with Dick if not greater. Don't get misdirected by the media and headlines. Do your own research and see the facts unedited for yourself to form your own opinion.

Re: Trump

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Post by bigtex »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #253
ethanhunt_ wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not arguing that you should vote for Trump. I'm just pointing out the lies and distortion. People should make their decision based on facts. > Trump is calling bias here is because he knows that he antagonized people of Mexican origin Doesn't matter. Even if Trump deliberately antagonized people of Mexican origin, he still deserves fair treatment in court. > Re: Muslim ban/profiling Muslim profiling is the de fac…

> Doesn't matter. Even if Trump deliberately antagonized people of Mexican origin, he still deserves fair treatment in court. Why do you think he isn't getting it? Because he complains? You haven't followed very many court cases if that's how you judge judicial bias. Or do you have actual concrete evidence from the court case itself to demonstrate bias? > I do agree with his position on removing illegal immigrants. T…

If Trump truly believed the judge was biased, why hasn't he instructed his lawyers to request him to be removed? From my understanding he has made no such formal request. The reason is because he is losing the case and those documents that came out a few weeks ago further solidify that.

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Post by unprepare »

athinggoingon wrote: post #115

> Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent among major presidential nominees. He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the judge presiding over the Trump university case, is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. La Raza is a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for all illegal im…

>I can go on and dismantle every other premise in this article using data and logic, but I will stop here.

is this r/cringeanarchy?

Re: Trump

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Post by unprepare »

tzs wrote: post #227
athinggoingon wrote: post #115

> Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent among major presidential nominees. He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the judge presiding over the Trump university case, is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. La Raza is a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for all illegal im…

> Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the judge presiding over the Trump university case, is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. La Raza is a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for all illegal immigrants. This is completely irrelevant, because most the judge's rulings that Trump is upset about occurred before Trump flip flopped on immigration from his former support for a path to citizenship to his c…

also because the issue is that trump himself said the judge is unfit due to his ethnicity.

thirdly,

> La Raza is a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for all illegal immigrants.

this quote implies that the judge is incapable of being an impartial public official, incapable of performing his job.

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Post by unprepare »

jack-r-abbit wrote: post #201
ethanhunt_ wrote: post #20

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

I find it kind of sad that we can fall all over ourselves declaring how some white judges are totally biased against minorities (or biased in favor of other rich white people... like the judge in the recent Stanford rape case) and that is just fine. But flip the script and suggest that a hispanic judge could possibly be biased against a person that has been quoted (and/or misquoted) as saying unkind things against ce…

If the judge is acting in a manner unfit of a US judge, why dont trumps lawyers file for a recusal of the judge, or any other various legal methods of assigning a different judge to the case?

Can you show any evidence that the judge has acted in a manner unfit of his judicial duty? Or that the case lead to outcomes that were harsher than the norm for such a decision?

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Post by effingwewt »

acconrad wrote: post #137

So we flag posts that are political opinion pieces but as soon as Sam Altman does it we're free to hit the front page and keep it up in perpetuity?

Every site has a hivemind of sorts, but HN really hates it being pointed out. I still roll my eyes at every source list that begins with [0].

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Post by unprepare »

spoiledtechie wrote: post #95

Oh how I am disparaged by Sam Altmans words. Not because they are wrong, but because they seem naive. Trump is right about the problem. His solutions are a more verbose than most. I am reminded of a quote "We must not paint with pale pastels, but with bold colors" Trump is using bold colors to address change. Mexican Judge - When has it not been heard that many white judges have shown prejudice against a black person…

>When has it not been heard that many white judges have shown prejudice against a black person or poorer individual. Its not a long shot to say another race can practice prejudice against a white man, when white men and white judges have been doing it for so long.

So you think there is equivalent evidence supporting the systemic racism of the judicial system against african americans over the entire course of our countries history, and this one judge supposedly showing prejudice against a single white business owner.

Thats a strong argument you've got there, i'd stick with it.

Re: Trump

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Post by krambs »

How could anyone know what Trump stands for? It seems to change with every speech. He's a crude opportunist embarrassing our country every day.

For someone so influential to lend him any sort of legitimacy is entirely reckless.

Re: Trump

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Post by billhendricksjr »

Thanks for a thought provoking post, Sam. It's good to challenge one's beliefs regularly.

> He’s right that the economy is not growing nearly fast enough

Can you share the data and rationale you used to come to this conclusion? I get there's a hugely growing and unjust divide between classes, but the macro economy seems pretty healthy. GDP growth has slowed [1], but it's positive and we're a much bigger economy (so harder to grow as fast).

[1] http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

Re: Trump

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Post by jasonlaramburu »

tomp wrote: post #308
jasonlaramburu wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hitler also claimed the Jews were in Germany illegally.

Trump's claims are actually true.

Please Explain. For example, he wishes to deport the families of undocumented immigrants, including children born in the United States. How is that true or legal?
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