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Re: Siri AI

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Post by mattmaroon »

s3p wrote: post #285
CryptoBanker wrote: post #258

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> And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare This has been a problem on iOS since the dawn of time and has nothing to do with AI

Nope, it got markedly worse since AI. You used to be able to search for string literals, so if you remembered one obtuse phrase from a group chat, you could pull it up instantly. Now this 'intent' search will try to search for what it thinks you want, not what you typed. AFAIK, there is no way to search for literals anymore, thanks to AI.

Yeah it went from bad to worse somehow.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mattmaroon »

CryptoBanker wrote: post #258
mattmaroon wrote: post #245

I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare. Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

> And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare This has been a problem on iOS since the dawn of time and has nothing to do with AI

AI has just made it worse, both directly (search doesn’t function like standard search anymore but also nowhere near ChatGPT) and by comparison.

I can go ask Gemini questions that require it to get information from several emails at once like “which x vendor had the lowest price”. Im assuming it can do the same with my texts or, if not yet, it will soon. I had zero such faith with Apple.

I will wait until the fall and see if this looks like the germ of something actually useful before deciding if I’m going to switch.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by lukevp »

s3p wrote: post #283
Ecstatify wrote: post #155

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It’s the same broken promise every year. All I want is for Siri to set an alarm and open my blinds. That’s enough for me. Makes you wonder how much money Apple has poured into Siri over the years.

Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

Not in the same request. I often want to turn off 2 lights and the other on, I have to build scenes to do this

Re: Siri AI

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Post by merlindru »

Danox wrote: post #209
merlindru wrote: post #114

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> do they have to let Anthropic and Deepseek run their models on it too? provided it gets big enough, yes. the EU's position roughly is "if this hurts an entire market just to benefit you, and lots of people use / rely on it, then you gotta allow it"

Then the EU’s not gonna get anywhere the US and China will just sail along. The lawyers in the EU are essentially cutting their throats building hardware and operating systems cost real money and time which is one of the reasons Apple is using Google’s model for $1 billion a year. (when Apple finishes their models in house, Google probably will be dropped). Like dropping Broadcom, Intel, or Qualcomm in 2027-28). It t…

that's the most common criticism. can't say i disagree.

though monopolistic practices are unequivocally bad and used to get struck down. one may argue this is just another instance of disallowing monopolistic behavior.

the DOJ used to have sharper fangs than what the EU is doing now

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Havoc »

wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

Well they better start executing soon

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Post by onesociety2022 »

jaggederest wrote: post #295
onesociety2022 wrote: post #277

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I never understood how any regulatory body is going to decide which APIs in iOS must be made available to third-parties to hook into. So what if I'm a third-party maker of TCP/IP stack and I want Apple to offer me the ability to sell my custom TCP/IP stack to my iOS customers as a replacement for the stock TCP/IP stack that ships with iOS. Clearly no regulatory body has cared about that because it's too niche of a sp…

> What about making Apple Watch specific APIs in iOS be made available to all third-party watch makers so any one can bring any smartwatch and use it just as effectively as the Apple Watch with an iPhone? What about all the AirPods specific APIs that lets Apple offer a better experience with AirPods than a generic bluetooth earbuds? What about Apple Pencil? And so on... Don't threaten me with a good time? All of thos…

Yes I'd like some of these too but at the same time I get an uneasy feeling when I think that some potential idiot in a regulatory body in every country is now going to decide which API surface needs to be made available to third parties. If they take it too far, they could end up making nonsensical choices and kill innovation.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by dwaite »

coevcan wrote: post #259
dwroberts wrote: post #222

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Requiring at least an iPhone 15 Pro also seems like a mistake, unless it’s for actual hardware reasons. The 15 is only 3 years old, this requirement cuts off a lot of potential users I think

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The design is that there is always a local model capable of forming a remote query with just the subset of local data on your phone needed to answer that query.

They may have decided that local processing was a MVP feature either for faster responsiveness or to reduce cloud cost. It may have been additional memory pressure or a limitation in processing on the previous A-series chip. Or they may have simply decided it wasn't worth creating and validating Yet Another model.

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