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Re: Siri AI

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I'm (slowly) working on a version controlled local-first password manager for exactly this reason.

Keepassxc is local first and has password history. Check it out before building.

It didn't have a good sync story when I checked last.

Re: Siri AI

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Requiring at least an iPhone 15 Pro also seems like a mistake, unless it’s for actual hardware reasons. The 15 is only 3 years old, this requirement cuts off a lot of potential users I think

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While I generally agree with your sentiment, imaging how they would say it to users: your ai works on iPhone 15 pro but some things will work if it’s a little less private we send things to a server then the regular 15 can do it. Image generation is server based so 15 is ok, but editing an image is not since 15 does not have enough ram but 15 pro does. Etc etc.

Or just say: ai for 15 pro not for 15.

Re: Siri AI

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> I feel like this is nothing more than Apple being angry that they have to allow people to actually choose what AI they want on their phone. It's really just Apple being angry about the EU's DMA endangering their golden goose (App Store revenue) and using any meaningful new functionality as a bargaining chip. They've done staggered geo launches for other features in the past many times, both before and after the DMA…

The thing is, Europeans are mostly annoyed with Apple over this, not the EC. It just reads like arrogant foreigners throwing a tantrum over our laws.

I struggle to believe there isn’t a significant fraction of EU citizens who are frustrated with the EU’s laws.

At the very least to the extent that the whole setup limits national sovereignty.

Your comment comes across as though you expect us to believe EU citizens are a homogenous whole, who happen to align with your perspective on this matter.

Re: Siri AI

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I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare. Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

no, you don't understand - iOS has no AI because Apple cares about your privacy!!

Re: Siri AI

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It’s kind of funny that the EU’s regulation here would force Apple to allow options that are worse for user privacy. Apple is the least incentivized to farm data from its users; in fact, that’s a huge selling point. They mentioned it over and over and over in the WWDC keynote today. In my opinion, Apple is doing the right thing for users. It’s not like they have a huge revenue stream here. Yes, there will be some fea…

Apple ad revenue is ~10% of rev, with Google deal, and growing. New management is going to turn it less privacy focused company, because Apple needs to pursue growth.

Yep and more like 25%+ of profits (given the google revenue, and most ad revenue, is close to 100% margin).

Re: Siri AI

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The thing is, Europeans are mostly annoyed with Apple over this, not the EC. It just reads like arrogant foreigners throwing a tantrum over our laws.

I struggle to believe there isn’t a significant fraction of EU citizens who are frustrated with the EU’s laws. At the very least to the extent that the whole setup limits national sovereignty. Your comment comes across as though you expect us to believe EU citizens are a homogenous whole, who happen to align with your perspective on this matter.

On the contrary, it reads to me like they've simply been around, and this is the general impression they gathered. Which may still not even be true, but it makes a whole lot more sense context wise, and is pretty darn different to the conveniently malicious motivation you're proposing. And with this, now your own "royal we" is similarly rendered deceptive.

> At the very least to the extent that the whole setup limits national sovereignty.

That's how anything grouplike works indeed.

> I struggle to believe there isn’t a significant fraction of EU citizens who are frustrated with the EU’s laws.

Sounds like something that'd have polling data coverage?

Re: Siri AI

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It’s kind of funny that the EU’s regulation here would force Apple to allow options that are worse for user privacy. Apple is the least incentivized to farm data from its users; in fact, that’s a huge selling point. They mentioned it over and over and over in the WWDC keynote today. In my opinion, Apple is doing the right thing for users. It’s not like they have a huge revenue stream here. Yes, there will be some fea…

> Apple is doing the right thing for users. The right thing for users would be to allow user choice, and for Apple to compete fairly. Apple allowing third party access doesn't automatically mean user data gets hoovered up by OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. It just means users now get the choice, if they want to make that choice. Users could stay with Siri/Apple if they care about what Apple is offering, or choose to accept t…

I never understood how any regulatory body is going to decide which APIs in iOS must be made available to third-parties to hook into. So what if I'm a third-party maker of TCP/IP stack and I want Apple to offer me the ability to sell my custom TCP/IP stack to my iOS customers as a replacement for the stock TCP/IP stack that ships with iOS. Clearly no regulatory body has cared about that because it's too niche of a space?

So some government official will scour the entire API surface of iOS and decide which ones Apple needs to expose to third-parties? They have already decided App Store and Payments APIs need to be made available. Now it looks like they also expect off-device foundation models need to be made available to third-parties.

What about making Apple Watch specific APIs in iOS be made available to all third-party watch makers so any one can bring any smartwatch and use it just as effectively as the Apple Watch with an iPhone? What about all the AirPods specific APIs that lets Apple offer a better experience with AirPods than a generic bluetooth earbuds? What about Apple Pencil? And so on... If you go down this path, the list is endless.

Re: Siri AI

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The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.

From an sysadmin perspective, assuming Apple provides full MDM toggles you can typically toggle these off one way or another. (.plist / preference keys, etc). With the most recent 'Apple Intelligence' function, it took a while for Apple to grant the ability to disable/enable each feature, then a bit of time for the respective MDM Software developers (Jamf, etc) to provide toggles.

Sounds good, where’s the “just kill this” toggle in my iPhone settings? I ain’t gonna bother with mdm etc etc I just need the damn thing to work and do what I need.
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